Trans fluid or additive ?

Get that stuff out of there. Mercon/Dextron + an additive is not the way to go. 7176 is an additive that claims to add similar characteristics of Mopar ATF+3.

From Allpar's website:

"Do not use Dexron with an additive. Richard Widman passed us an extensive report from reputable gas company Chevron, which compared ATF+3 fluid with Dexron plus various additives. They found that neither of two major brands matched ATF+3's performance specs."

Furthermore your 2002 most likely requires fully synthetic ATF +4 (Check your manual). Most non-chrysler shops do not have ATF+4 because until recently only Mopar made it. The shop will most likely argue like crazy for the reason that they do not have ATF+4 and apparently don't even have ATF+3. For the $'s saved it's simply not worth it. Use the fluid specified by Dodge.

R> Rather than have the Dealer$ do the tranny flush and change I went to

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"Jay" wrote in news:mUd_f.90118$oL.66872@attbi_s71:

Appreciate the feedback, will deal with it asap. First to Pennzoil for a refund, then maybe the dealer inspite they want

Anymore info with references keep it comin', printing them out and going back to Pennzoil for either ATF+4 or my money back !!

Thx Ron

$300 for a tranny flush at your dealer? That seems WAY too high. Dealers here are about $100 for ATF+4.

Check your manual for required fluid type. My guess is that your manual will indicate ATF+4 is required. If so there is no argument the penzoil shop can offer since the additive they use only brings it (supposedly) to ATF+3 specs.

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I get $149.00 for the service on that truck.

not a flush job....a trans service.

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If your shop is only dropping the pan, replace the filter and a few quarts of fluid then $149 is way too high. If that includes the above plus a changing all fluid then its not too bad.

Not really. $30-$40 for the fluid (remember, DC thinks +4 is liquified gold)... $20 for the filter/gasket... $90 for the hour labor (minimum charge)... it adds up.

"Tom Lawrence" wrote in news:Kjt_f.5255$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:

Also note I was talking canuck bucks :-)

If he has the tow package and changes both the filters it will take 2 gal (8 quarts) of ATF+4 to top off a 45RFE. I buy 6 gal (a case) at a time for around $17.50ea

How much fluid is in the pan? My dealer charges $150 to drop the pan, change the filter AND do a complete flush. Quite a few more quarts of that liquid gold stuff!

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and yer a sevice advisor.........where???

lmao

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we agree.

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What is a complete flush?

jest curious

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Tommy, he's most likely got 2 filters. The screw on cannister type also.

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And this is funny cuz why?

Changing ALL fluid, not just what drains out of the pan.

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Oh.

How do they get it all out?

again, jest curious

~:~ Marsh ~sips his crownroyal.......lights a smoke.....wonders.....if he should run out to the outfitters shop......nah.....my takle box is full~