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With that one story I told before the family is trying to appeal the law here to get more then the 100k. If they didn't take the child to the doctor the same ending would have resulted. I could understand the parents getting quite a bit more if he was involved in the death, but he wasn't. Once again, if it's so easy stop going to doctors to figure out what's wrong.

Different people have different ways of defining correct. I have a knee problem and I went to my doctor a few times and each time he said that it's nothing. After about the 4th time I went to a specialist and he told me I need surgery. Do I think that the first doctor did his job correctly? Absolutely. Quickly? Not at all. There was another time when I was having pains in my abdominal region and I went in but they couldn't find anything wrong so they took a blood test. Within a few hours they told me to go right to a hospital. They never found out what was wrong. Do I think that they did that correctly? Not really, I'd like to know what I had. Quickly? Yep. There's a tradeoff between following everything exactly down to the letter and trying to do things quickly. You can try all you'd like to do both at the same time, but sometimes certain events don't allow it.

Say you're having heart surgery and something goes wrong. Do you want the surgeon to take his time or would you prefer that he kind of speed it up? In a perfect world everything and everyone would work at 100% speed and with a

0% error rate all the time. If he doesn't move fast enough you'll die and he gets sued by your family. If he moves faster and makes a mistake he gets sued by you. If you can handle that kind of pressure, kudos to you.

That is why you buy insurance.

Most cases are settled out of court because litigation is very expensive. And no one knows what the judge will do or what the jury will do. In a way the inherent inefficiency of the court system leads to an efficient settlement system.

Must be one of those restrictions of freedom that Geoff likes to bleat about in reference to Canada.

Indeed. But even you've heard of insurance fraud right? I mean, hey..he's got insurance..lets get him to get into an accident with us then we can sue his ass off! There're people out there that don't care about anything but getting money.

In the end it's just hurting the people that pay for the services. If I get sued for something frivolous and they win and my insurance goes up, I'm sure as hell going to raise the cost of my services.

Q: What do you call the guy who graduates last in his class at a 4th-rate med school?

A: Doctor.

Up here in Canada, too. There are doctors who've made the news for refusing to continue to see their patients who will not quit smoking.

If I were you I would lock myself in a bathroom and never come out. A friend of mine in the software business was sued for no decent reason at all. Even though the contract said any suit had to be in NC the guy sued him in California and thejudge refused to move it. My friend spent $90k on lawyers defending himself and the guy drops the case the day the trial is supposed to begin. If my friend refused the dismisssal the case would have continued and who knows, maybe the guy would have won. So my friend lost $90k out of his own pocket for no reason whatsoever and he did not have adequate coverage for the risk. That is life. Like I said..... lock yourself in a closet or bathroom and you won't get sued..... probably.

That sounds pretty damn bad. I remember one of my teachers, I can't remember which one it is, said something like "If you haven't been in a lawsuit yet I would really recommend one." If I were that person I'd probably try suing to get the money spent back. Quite a world out there.

BAH !

Like I'm going to let things like "facts" stand in the way of me making a point ;-)

The one's you see on "Cops" aren't getting strip searched on camera & the one's they enjoy "searching" sure as hell aren't going to be submitted to "Cops" for their partners to see.....

That's I'm thinking anyways. (probably wrong, but it sounds good no?)

In the UK & many other parts of the world the loser pays legal fee's. Including the loser who "drops" the case after initiating legal action. Perhaps such an approach might be adopted by the US?

Oprah made jury duty. Good enough explanation?

Science? Science? Please people let's keep religious "belief systems" out of a good thread.

Science, Christian Science, Scientology, Voodoo. You name it. It's all just a belief system.

(foot note). This is troll bait for the Under grads who've yet to critically examine that belief system

I recall Geoff was saying in an earlier post something about living in a Capitalist society. "scum trial lawyers" help capitalism! How? They take money that is being poorly utilized by insurance companies (government and corporate bonds) and disperse it throughout the society via the springer crowd.

Look at Mike Tyson. $300 Million to 0.00 in the blink of an eye.

Same with most of these "lawsuit lottery winners" A year or two of Cheap booze, cheaper women and 1 fast car and they're either organ donor's or back living at the trailer park. That money spurs the economy helping the growth of developing industries. See !? "scum sucking lawyers" and their "white trash" clientele are an integral part of the nations economy.

For the socialists in the group it's wealth "redistribution" at it's most base.

For anyone who's ever worked in the insurance field its either laughable or maddening. (I'm more the former)

It's also why landlords are constantly given advice on landlording forums never to rent to a lawyer, law student, or law clerk, and after having been a landlord a few years, I can say that that's good advice. Since they are not a protected class, it's probably legal too.

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For once, I agree with you on a political matter, Art. But I have heard of 5 or 25 million dollar awards for ridiculous things - I don't think even wrongful death is awarded what some injuries are bringing - and that's off balance. I have to think if I had to put a dollar value on what my family should be awarded if someone accidentally killed me, it would be way less than some of these ridiculous awards.

I think it is a case where, regrettably, society is forced to make a law (i.e., limit potential awards) due to common sense having fallen out the window to a point that everyone is suffering hugely because of it. In an ideal world, such limits would not have to be legislated because common sense judgements would be reasonable. One down-side of the mandated limits would be that a cookie cutter solution will not be just (i.e., fair) in all situations for a particular legal criteria - there may be actual value that will not be allowed to be considered because of the legal restrictions, and that will be unfortunate - but that's true of all laws that should not have been necessary but in fact are because of human stupidity that forced the law to be made to keep society afloat.

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I've heard of lawsuits where a doctor was sued

And there are "good samaritan" laws in some places that require you to stop and help if you can. A case of literally being damned if you do and damned if you don't. The world has gotten way too complicated (by human stupidity).

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That, to me, is 90% of the problem - the "Springer" mentallity that our society has bought into, and it shows up in the juries.

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