| Hi, I am looking to buy a new mid-size domestic car
| (Ford/GM/Chrysler). Any recommendations. I have an old Dynasty and
| really like it. Am looking for something about the same size.
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You can knock Chrysler off your list...Daimler owns them now (German), so it is
no longer considered "domestic" by most. That should narrow it down a bit. If
you're into gadgets and gimmicky features (that are overly complicated)...look
at the GM offerings. If you prefer basic/simple, look at Ford. Since you're
driving an old Dynasty, you're probably used to simple. The problem with Ford
is that you're probably looking at the Taurus/Sable, based on your
description...not sure I'd buy one of those. GM has better offerings in the
mid-size car lines (in my opinion)...but a word of warning...you will need to
spend a few days reading the manual to understand how to program
everything...they have LOTS of "automatic" features that you will need to
If you are looking for domestic, don't forget Honda, Toyota, Mercedes and
other people who make cars in the US.
The car companies are not really US companies any more; they are world
After all, Ford has plants in Germany, England, owns Vovlo, Jaguar and other
companies; GM has plants in Germany, England and other countries; it owns
Saab and other companies.
Actually you are right Jeff, we live in a world economy now. The saying of
buy made is USA is getting to be less and less heard. I personally think a
world economy is healthy and will eventually help to keep the US from
supporting other countries.
Just think some day we'll be saying "Buy Made On Earth".
Oh well back to the Star Trek movie marathon....
My late father-in-law vowed he would never buy a foreign car, but when
we took over his '81 Dodge Mirada we found that it had been made in
Canada -- as was our '02 300M.
On 08/15/04 08:07 pm Jeff put fingers to keyboard and launched the
following message into cyberspace:
That is correct. And Canadian plants have consistently produced some
of both the best "american" and "japanese" cars in the world.
The Cambridge built Corollas (and Matrix and Solara, among others) and
the Alliston built Honda products are every bit as good as anything
that comes off the boat. In my experience they (Canadian built
"american" cars) are better than the Mexican built vehicles
(contourr/mystique, Neon, and Crown Vic among others) and every bit as
good as ANYTHING that comes out of Detroit, Kansas City, or wherever.
The "windsor" engine was one of Ford Canada's major contributions to
Ford World, and now many of the Mod series engines that find their way
into "American built" fords are produced in Windsor, which, although
SOUTH of Detroit, across the Detroit river, is in, you guessed it -
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:38:51 +0100, "Dori A Schmetterling"
Ahh... that's where you are wrong.
See on a day like today when the Provice of Ontario gave Ford $100
Million tied to the Federal $100 Million bribe to keep Ford production
going here in Ontario, we're part of Canada.
However "Tomorrow" when Ontario signs a deal with Michigan, Ohio & New
York to further mesh the power grids it will be Southern Ontario - USA
(foot note, "Ontario" is short for "The Greater Toronto Area")
Hmmm. I'm pretty sure Windsor is part of southern Ontario, and it has
just as big a stake as Toronto does, proportional to its size.
Are you a disaffected Canadian? No wonder you're confused with
Windsor? Oh right... The Michigan Casino location...
See I was looking at it on a tax dispersal basis. Seeing as most
government offices, Major Hospitals & quite a number of Auto plants
absorb money within a 30 minute drive of the GTA that the GTA was
where the sucking sound originated.
Infact unless I'm mistaken Bill Ford (Grandson of Henry Ford) came to
the Oakville plant to get his $100 million corporate welfare cheque
the other day. Not a Windsor Plant, not a St. Thomas plant. Sad I
know, but.... Reality.
Don't worry about my dis-affection with any nation state. My
disaffection would be more trans-global & structural in nature.
As for confusion with socialist ideas....If only. The past is the
past, socialism, capitalism and communism are dying or dead around the
world. Look to the future young man, don't fasten your ambitions to
a sinking ship.
Communism never truly existed, Socialism is still some of the most
successful nations (i.e. Sweeden), and capitalism won't leave as long as
there are the super-rich. Just out of curiousity, what is the future?
Wow I'm surprised that this thread is still going. As to "what is the
future? That's a hard one to answer as is often said "the future has
yet to be written" any pandemic or planetary environmental change can
shift people's views pretty quickly. Though the concensus seems to
be (if things continue on the present path) a slow withering of the
nation state and the rise of the city state.
But opinions of the future, as with A**holes are, one per person on
However, the cars made by GM and Ford for the US market are all built
in North America, except for the Aveo, that's built in Korea. I think
the OP and person replying were implying US-market Chevy, Buick,
Caddy, Chrysler, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury. Honda and Toyota are still
foreign companies, despite the US-market vehicles being built in the
US. The comment about Chrysler is a good point, it's now owned by a
German company, so it COULD be considered a German car company. Heck,
the Crossfire is a C320 I believe...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:35:25 -0400, "James C. Reeves"
Daimler Chrysler products are still considered DOMESTIC, whether built
in the USA, Mexico, or Canada. The ownership, whether German or not,
is shared worldwide by the stockholders of the company - and there are
more american stockholders than German, I'd venture to bet.
Better yet, just find another good low mileage later model Dynasty or
New Yorker (up to 1992) and keep on trucking!!!!
I just bought a Mercury Mystique to replace my 88 New Yorker. So far I
like it. It is smaller than the Dynasty/New Yorker, but has a better
body than the Cirrus/Breeze.(virtually all I looked at had perforated
hood leading edges at 6 years of age. Some even sooner)
A mid-size GM with a 3.8 (previous to the Gen II) is also worth
looking for, but I've found the bodies do not stand up well in our
salt/ice conditions. Rockers and door bottoms disintegrate.
My 95 Trans Sport does not have that issue (the"corvette station
wagon" or "plastic vantastic" has about 320,000KM on it and looks like
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