Saw an interesting article on the front page of this morning's Sunday paper
about the 2008 Mercury Mariner Hybrid. Didn't even know it existed.
Looking at cars.com, edmunds.com, consumer reviews are very positive, with
people getting an average of 30-35 MPG city/hwy/mixed.
Looks like a nice car, and I plan to have a look at one tomorrow. Anybody
with any thoughts about it? Is it nice, is there a long wait to get one
from a dealer, are they on 3-6 mo back-order like Priuses? Can you
negotiate with the dealer on price, unlike with Priuses?
Thanks for any and all feedback!
it's not a car, it's a truck. It is registered like a truck and it meets
truck safety standards. It also handles differently than a car.
and I plan to have a look at one tomorrow.
Depends on the supply. I suspect that the price of gas will start going
down at the end of the summer and drop pretty far, to around $3 per
gallon once the crude oil bubble bursts. If that is the case, it should
be easier to get one in the fall. Of course, that is my best guess about
what is going to happen.
Check out the Ford Escape Hybrid and Mazda Tribute Hybrid. They're all
the same vehicle with different badges. You might be able to get one
significantly cheaper than another or with the options you want.
I don't know about your state but in most states, SUVs like the Mariner,
Escape and Tribute are registered and insured as cars, not trucks. SUVs
like the Mariner, Escape and Tribute must meet the same NHTSA safety
standards as cars, as well
That's funny: Ford is listing the Escape with its trucks, not its cars.
Why do you think it does that?
Gee, that's just stupid. SUVs have higher centers of gravity and are
more likely to roll over than cars. The Feds may soon require stronger
roofs for SUVs.
If I'm not mistaking, it's actually a Ford/Mercury with a Toyota Hybrid
system... or that was the case when they were first introduced.
Considering the reliability of Toyota, I'd say it would be an excellent
Obviously the article I read neglected to mention this, particularly the
I stand corrected, and thanks for the info.
Interesting considering Volvo does not have a Hybrid in their line up to my
I bought an Escape Hybrid in Sept and according to the car's computer, i"m
getting about 22 MPG combined driving. I do have the 4WD version which
isn't as good as the 2WD for milage and I have a bit of a lead foot for
acceleration (not so much for top speed). FWIW
I am changing jobs and expect much more highway driving. I am interested to
see how that works out. I also wonder if calculating milage with the old
fashond fill the tank and reset the odometer method will be better than what
the computer states because I think it inadequately accounts for idling with
engine off like in a drive through line as opposed to a short stop at a
In northern CA at least you can still buy one from dealer stock same day no
waiting if you have good credit but don't expect any incentives. Just about
every Ford sale does not benefit the Hybrids. If you wanted a deal, you
missed it when they sold out the o7's with the old body style last year.
If you just want good highway milage don't bother with the extra expense of
the hybrid, just get the 4cyl Escape/Mariner or whatever and save well over
a few grand. If you really do a lot of city driving (or stop and go jams)
then a hybrid may be an advantage. The first ten or so miles in the morning
while it warms up the engine, it will not run in battery mode so very short
and infrequent trips also offer little advantage (another factor in my low
milage) over a 4cyl engine
They are way greener WRT emissions but only marginally better than a similar
weight 4cyl engine car or small SUV and only with the right driving
conditions and style. My favorite thing was the CVT trnasmission because it
makes the car accelerate very smooth. I'm quite satisfied overall after
driving the same Explorer for 15 years.
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