Re: Which car is built in America?

Yoyota is truthfull. Ford, GM and Chrysler also assemble in America of "world sourced parts" However, the 2009 Camry was the most "american" car you could buy in the USA last year.

Ya right. Search the US Department of Commerce sit for the facts, WBMA

What is the URL of the Commerce Department site that lists domestic parts used in cars?

The funny thing is that the law requires content to be reported to the National Traffic and Highway Safety Administration, who reports that the Mazda Tribute is 90% made in the US. And the Toyota Tundra has more US components that the Chevy Malibu. For some reason, Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles are not reported.

And, what vehicle is made from only US parts and without any "world sourced parts"?

BTW, the Toyota has the highest domestic (US and Canada) content of any car listed. So much for your world sourced parts garbage.

Jeff

What Commerce Department Website? Commerce Depart. has 100s of websites. If you are correct, it should be simple for you to cut and paste the URL of the site so that you can back your claim, WMBA.

Jeff

The parts content label lists parts that have the their final assembly completed in the US or Canada, regardless of the source of the materials or the components of the assembled parts.

Even a Camry made totally in Japan, will displays a parts label listing "AX" number of North American parts, when obviously the total is ZERO. I.E. Parts stampings that are made of imported Japanese steel will be listed as NA parts. Transmissions made in Japan, that have their final assembly in Canada will be listed as NA parts. One of the six speed tyrannies, that Ford buys from Asian, a Japanese company, is listed on the parts label as made in Japan. The same tyranny, made by the Japanese company that has it final assembly in Canada is listed as a NA part on a Toyota.

The find were the MATERIALS and parts are actually made, one must search the US Department of Commerce site. If you do you will discover the vast majority of MATERIALS and parts use by GM and Ford, around 80% to 85% are sourced in the US, even on the vehicles they assemble in Canada and Mexico.

Although no auto manufacture selling vehicles in the US today is currently earning a profit, when they do the American corporations will pay federal corporate income taxes. The Japanese corporations, because of corporate tax credits in Japan, will not pay a penny in US federal corporate income taxes, as has been the case ever since they started selling vehicles in the US. In addition the Japanese government will return that money to those corporations for R&D, under the Japanese Capital Reinvest law, as it has ever since WWII.

Do you record every site you ever visited? I do not and I do not do home work for my own grand children, what makes you think I will do it for you?

beyond where the car/parts are manufactured..........a question I don't know the answer to:

where are the manufacturers' corporate income taxes paid?

i.e., does the sale of an "American" Toyota result in a profit for Toyota/Japan with the corporate income tax paid there........or a profit to Toyota of America with corporate income tax paid here or ?????? Same would hold true for all makers......including overseas operations of our "domestic" companies. I assume it's a tangled web, i,e. is Toyota of America a distribution company or manufacturer......a separate corporate entity or wholly owned subsidiary?

American and European manufactures pay corporate income taxes, on the vehicles they sell in Europe and the US, to the governments of Europe and the US.

Because of the Japanese Capital Reinvestment law all Japanese corporations, not only vehicle manufactures, pay corporate income taxes in Japan on the products and vehicles they sell in the US, whether they are made in Japan or the US.

Unlike the tax advantage Japanese corporations have in the US, they must pay corporate taxes in Europe, on the vehicles they sell in Europe, just as do the US and European corporations.

Japanese corporations operating in the US do pay state and local income taxes, just as do American and European corporations, however.

You are making the allegations - it is up to you to prove them - otherwise anyone is free to consider you a blowhard - whether you are right or not.

Toyota USA is a US Corporation registered in California and pays federal and state taxes on it's profits.

Toyota Canada is two companies, Toyota Canada inc (sales) and Toyota Motor Manufacturing Corp. (TMMC) (Manufacturing)

They both pay Canadian and Ontario taxes - as do all their employees.

But the price that Toyota USA pays to Toyota Japan for required Japaneses sourced parts might be outrageous, ensuring that there will be no US-based profit.

Really? I looked it up in google. I found no such law.

Besides, the companies that sell Japanese brand cars in the US are not Japanese companies. They are US companies. They happen to be owned by Japanese companies, but, they pay US corporate and state and local income tax.

You don't do your own homework. What you're saying is that you can't back your claims. Which means you don't know what you're talking about.

Jeff

That's because the manufacturer estimates the content for all cars in a particular model together, including cars made in NA and Japan.

What US Department of Commerce site? You can't provide the URL because there isn't one.

Then why does the content labels usually say much less? Only two GM vehicles are listed as having more than 75% US content. So the average is less. US makers have a higher domestic parts content percentage than the Japanese. But the US content is not 80 to 85% for GM and Ford.

Honda is:

But their subsidies do pay US corporate tax.

Really? Evidence, please.

You know, you really crack me up! You talk about things like you know what you're saying, when you don't have a clue.

Jeff

Well I know for a fact in the case of the Canadian built Corolla and Matrix the vast majority of the car is manufactured - not just assembled, within 200 km of Cambridge Ontario.

Same goes gor the Hondas built at Allison Ontario. For a while even the engine blocks for the corolla were locally cast - not sure if they still are or not. They were also locally assembled.

As for design, much of the design work for Toyota vehicles is done in California.

Correct.

On a related note, with the downturn in the global economy, where cars and parts are made by the Japanese automakers has been changing a lot over the last year. The NUMMI plant will be closed. And some cars that were previously made in the US are being made in Japan. So the old percentage of domestic content may change (both up and down).

Jeff

That's because it doesn't exist

Get real, dummy. I told you were to look for the facts, YOU are saying that the source I quoted was not factual. Therefore it is up to you to prove otherwise. Is it any wonder that we consider you a blowhard?

That may be you personal opinion but you are wrong, again. I do not know Canadian Corporate income tax law so I can not speak to that but I certainly know US corporate tax law. I am the former owner of a Delaware corporation subject to US federal Corporate taxes. The Japanese companies in the US, by what ever name, are only holding companies for the Japanese Corporation and not subject to US corporate taxes, only STATE taxes. Search the US Department of Treasury site for the facts, WBMA.