It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM
brands show up in the top 10.
Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter
Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn.
But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and
Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only
difference is style and price.
As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying
midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers.
PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I
laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73.
It proves that there are still farmers in this fertile land and they
Exactly! Nicole Kidman and your frigid grandmother are basically the
The only difference is in style (or lack of such) and the cost of
maintenance, etc. Not sure how enjoyable ride they are though.
Maybe ask your granddad?
The buyers of trucks who have such a need shrunk to about 50% of the
truck market during the course of the truck boom. Now the truck market
is rapidly shrinking back to those who have a real need for them. Said
farmers are going to have their pick of nice used trucks which never saw
much work beyond commuting to the office.
Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages
from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab,
etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda.
Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and
Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess
that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is
at 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM
comes even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!).
Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at
12.4% without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so
it wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda
has GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few
models and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks
and a passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers.
If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford
and Chrysler remain in deep trouble.
Acording to the orgiantl poster the figures represented were for car sales,
not total vehicle sales. Around half of the vehicles sold in the US are
light trucks. GM, Ford and Chrysler sell far more light trucks than any
What I find shocking is that the combined sales of Merceeds, BMW, and Lexus
are 11% of the market. To me that indicates that Californians really do have
more money than sense - which is probably why Toyota's sell so well there.
Ever heard of 'the suitcase test'?
If you had a suitcase with $20,000, what would you go buy? Well, not a ford
by any means. A toyota? Better build quality, Japanese reliability....same
with Honda vehicles. BMW's are over-priced, as are Mercs. Honda or Toyota
are best for the simple sensible man with not much cash to spare in the long
That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8
Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more
than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry and
the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;)
Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305.
Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235.
Yeah, that's $20,000 or less.
Why do you write here? Why do you embarrass yourself?
It's right up there with "I did not have sex with that woman" or "I promise
no new taxes."
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