No offense intended Dachef, but if you don't even know how to ID the low side
fitting you have no business trying to service your AC. You could get injured or
very expensive damage to your system.
Why are you trying to charge the system? Low on refrigerant? How do you know?
is low there is a leak, did you repair the leak? If you repaired the leak, the
was opened, did you pull a vacuum?
There is a lot more to fixing an AC system than adding refrigerant!
let me tack a question on here, my 99 windstar with 100k, its A/C has been
getting weaker for the last couple summers or so. I was going to bring it to
the dealer for the a/c service and recharge. But does this mean I have a
small leak somewhere or do properly working systems just get weaker over
If the fading performance is due to a low charge, then yes there is a leak. AC
systems don't "use" refrigerant and it doesn't get weak with age. Take a look at
of the connections in the AC lines. If you find one (or more) that has oily dirt
it, you've found a leak. Compressor shaft seal leaks are also very common.
AC repair can be DIY, but you need to do a little bit of homework to
how and why. I would suggest checking out: http://www.autoacforum.com /
I should have mentioned this in my original reply to Dachef, sorry. AC repair
area that lack of knowledge can cost you a lot of money.
No they dont get weaker... Have never touched my 95 Taurus A/C and it's
Assume you DO know how to determine the low side.
If that low side is cold all the way to the compressor, though.. check
the blend door.
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!
I do all my own auto repairs except for a/c and auto trannies, dont plan on
messing with the windstar much in that dept. I am going to do the 134
conversion on a 87 5th ave which has no regirerant at all in it, it all
leaked out 4 years ago so I shouldnt have to worry about freezing my face
off. Hoping the o rings from the conversion kit might fix the leak. then I'm
gonna bring it do a shop and have them check it for leaks and charge it.
It's normal for them to have small leaks - no seal is perfect. If
no air has gotten in, and no compressor oil has leaked out, you can
just top off the refrigerant and be done for a few more years.
But you Really Do Need a proper gauge manifold at the bare minimum
so you can see both the high-side and low-side pressures in the system
- it's too easy to goof up and overfill the system with the "Refill
Kits" and damage the system or hurt yourself.
Harbor Freight Tools has cheap R-134 gauge manifold sets - fine for
occasional use, not for daily use. And you can pick up a good Chef's
Digital instant-reading thermometer almost anywhere for $10 to $20.
And do learn a bit about how the system works before you try filling
it, same reason. You can see the proper temperature for the pressure,
and then you see if the cold air coming out agrees with the low-side
pressure gauge, and the liquid line temperature from the condenser
agrees with the high-side pressure, plus a little sub-cooling - if
not, there is a bigger problem somewhere.
--<< Bruce >>--
Actually, the better method is to recover the system and apply a deep
vacuum.... allow the system to "rest" while observing any vacuum drop. It is
at this time that a judgement call will be made - pray for an experienced
tech with good judgement. There are leaks that will be relatively easy to
find and there are leaks that will be nearly impossible to find.... as
techs, we need to be able to tell the difference without spending way too
much money on whims....
If the leak is not readily identifiable - including a thorough search for
"tattletales", add dye and recharge the system with the correct amount of
R134a. "Topping off" the system is a fools errand and runs the chance of
allowing a sealant or other virus into the system (rendrring it
unserviceable in the eyes of any competent shop) or resulting in an
overcharge that can damage the compressor.
Far too many systems have had added damage from improper repair
attempts...... what could have been an expeditious repair is turned into a
major financial because the DIYer lacks a basic understanding of the system
Additionally, we are slopping R134a around with the same reckless abandon
that brought about the demise of R12..... If we fail to learn from history,
we are doomed to repeat it...
Now... I'm going to sit back and wait for the first self righteous bastuhd
to tell me it is "his" air I am breathing and it is his choice as to whether
or not he will foul it...
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