He posted a month ago with his steering problem and was told it was his
ball joints then. He just doesn't want to belive this is happening to
him at a million miles. His mechanic was quite conservative in
suggesting it needed only the one side. Still not good enough. He asked
if it could be tightened or something.
On 10 Jul 2006 14:33:01 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Um, you really, really want to have both those lower ball joints
replaced. I procrastinated on my S-10 awhile back and was treated to
the excitement of one breaking loose at 70 mph on the interstate. No
harm done except for the towing fee - and having to change my pants.
That kind of excitement no one needs. I was *very* lucky!!!!!
- Larry A.
Glad to see these $$$ answers.
went to my regular mechanic today. he checked the ball joint and said
they were fine. The other shop was just trying to scam me.
if you f$$$ do not have a helpful reply then don't reply at all.
I just wanted to know what are the symptoms of a ball joint going bad.
I got all kind of s$$$ answers from s$$$ people but not one reply
pertinent to the question.
Well, try this...
We normally jacked up the car a bit, off the ground, put a bar under the
tire, and levered it up
and down to check the movement in the joint. There are specifications for
for your application, I am sure, but I dont know what they are exactly. I
dont have a manual on this
I have seen cars with bad ball joints go into serious buffeting and
vibration in corners. When they
break, the whole wheel detaches at this spot and you lose control.
Alignment is impossible with badly worn ball joints, so a number of
alignment related symptoms can be
Maybe the first mechanic was trying to scam you, but I suspect he detected
looseness in the joint
and recommended the change. If he really wanted to scam you, he would have
gone for more
than one balljoint.
Those joints go for about $45-60 each at Autozone.
You have one yes, one no; why not go to a third opinion?
Now, these kind of answers I can live with. My concern is that the only
symptom I have is that the car makes a sqeaking noise at low speed AND
on uneven surface. Now that could be due to any number of reasons. I
wanted to know what the symptoms would be if a ball joint is going bad
because some of the symptoms that I've come across on the internet -
car shaking, making a noise at every bump etc. etc. did not seem to be
happening in my case.
Yes, I will be getting a third opinion. As I read in one of the
articles, if you apply too much pressure (I think more than 25 psi) you
can make nearly any ball joint move as if it has gone bad.
Noise is another indication sometimes. Looseness in the joint can cause the
bumping noise you are referring to.
Squeaking is sometimes (and there are lots of exceptions) a-frame bushings,
may be sway bar bushings, and can be wear indicators on disc brake systems.
Sometimes the disc brakes just squeak a little.
And you are right that some ball joints show more play than would be
desirable. IIRC, early Falcon and Mustang ball joints were often replaced
they were within manufacturers specifications. (And this was a measured
not a visual evaluation.) Maybe someone here can comment.
Ball joints are not something that you want to ignore IF they are failing.
age of this car, excessive wear is certainly something to look into. If
search I did at Autozone is correct, this car has upper and lower ball
each side. To replace the whole set would run into a few bucks.
Oh I agree completely. Ball Joints are not to be played with. My
concern is that I do not see any symptom of ball joint being bad except
the squeaking noise (which could also be caused by bending of rotor,
since this squeak dies down as soon as I press my brakes). Hence for a
mechanic and some dumb f$$$s on this group to insist it is ball joints
and nothing else is sheer stupidity.
Well, you could spend as many years in the trade as your mechanic, and then
you'll know. Or you can invest in a school for mechanics. Then you'd know.
Or you could quit seeing thieves behind every lamp post while you drive
around in a 16 year old car - unable to believe that parts wear out.
Of course you could always just fall for the most common scam of all time -
tell an owner that his car needs ball joints...
You mean to say that you have replaced whatever the mechanic has told
you?? Well, it would be interesting to know how many people are on this
group that have never disputed a mechanic's opinion, have always taken
his word and not even gotten a second opinion. I'll tell you something
that you have obviously missed. Look at the postings and you will see
people asking for advice all the time and these are not just the DIYs.
These are people who have been scammed by "mechanics"....
I do all of my own work so it's very infrequent that a mechanic tells me
what I need to keep my car up. That said, when I don't know about
something, I go and ask qualified people. I don't turn around then, and
post to a newsgroup, immediately questioning whether I'm getting scammed.
Maybe you need to take your car to a mechanic you can trust.
There is a reason why many people work on their own cars (apart from
liking what they do) and that is from your 'qualified' mechanics.
what is wrong in hearing what the mechanic has to say and then asking
on the newsgroups? you guys seem to be so offended that I've questioned
a mechanic. It might be an old car but I would not want to change a
part if nothing is wrong with it and if some people think that it is
then they can kiss my a$$ and if some people feel offended that a
person has the temerity to question a 'qualified' mechanic then they
can also kiss my a$$.
Just bcos you don't turn around and question a mechanic does not make
it a norm for everyone to follow. How can you assume that everyone
should do the same just bcos you do it that way?
you remind me of george carlin -
isn't is surprising that everyone on the road driving slower than you
is an idiot and everyone driving faster than you is insane...
thanks but no thanks on your posts. they like many others have not been
at all helpful and to the point. Maybe one of these days you will learn
to respond to posts rather than attack a person just bcos you don't
agree with what others do.
Mike Marlow wrote:
One of the best things a client and a mechanic could do would be
to have a short talk before and after the work. Most mechanics are
honest, but some are crooks.
The client has a right to be heard, not just talked down to.
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