critique of the General Motors lineup

I like minivans too. Chevy still makes the Venture for 2004...why not stick with that?

stick with that?

I agree, silver is a great color for hiding road dirt and grime. White isn't to bad either (I have a White Dodge Caravan). But Silver is definitely better. My last dark vehicle was a forest green Malibu LS...like you I had to wash it too darn often to keep it looking half way clean.

Bad.

Good.

GM only makes three truly good vehicles. The LeSabre, the Yukon/Tahoe, and the Corvette. Everything else is unfortunately, matched or bettered by the competition for the price. Saturn is acceptable, though - but not special either. Kind of its own thing.

Still, those three are very good standouts that cover a lot of people's needs.

I'd pass. Like it or not, the Honda CR-V/Element is a better design. GM doesn't make decent minivan. Neither does Ford. They do make the Yukon, which can be had for yery little a couple of years old. I've seen 3-4 year old models in the 20K range. At that price, they beat a minivan hands-down. :)

Wow, they screwed it up good, membrane activated door handles? wtf? what happens when the battery dies?

For the 2005 model year (available fall 2004), GM will have a Buick "minvan". I put the word minivan in quotations because it will be called a "crossover sport van" instead. It is called the Buick Terraza. To get more info, check out the Buick web site at

Inspired in the Korean paragon of design: Kia. Harley Earl is probably turining in his grave...