You are free to believe whatever you chose, but lets apply some logic that
easily disproves your 'many different vehicles' theory for more than one
digit being assigned to the US, rather than just one as is the case for
Most ambulances are build on Ford truck chasses and thus use Ford VIN
numbers. A piece of farm equipment, or whatever, would have the
manufacture designated by the digit following by the first digit that would
be different from each other and different than a car or truck manufacturer.
The body, plant, engine etc., numbers would all be different as well. The
digit that defines the type of SRS would not even be needed on most. If the
number built, of a single manufacturer of a single model, with single engine
in a specific assembly plant exceed the six sequential number assigned to
those particular vehicles, the check digit is changed allowing for 999,999
more to be built in that plant, of a single manufacturer, of a single model,
with single engine
Knowing that, what in the world leads your opinion that it is the number of
vehicles that requires the US to use 1, 4 or 5? If that is all of the
evidence, as you call it, you found, do more search WBMA. The government
body that defines WHICH number, 1, 4 and 5 as they apply to vehicles
assembled in the US, is the US Department of Commerce
the reason why there are three different first digits
Still having a problem with logic when it comes to VINs I see. Tell me from
your source what YOU know to be the number or letter that is applied to the
VIN for the engine in a 500? The body code for an F150 RWD and 4WD. How
about a E150, or a Lincoln Town Car? How about the letter for the drive
type for a Caterpillar dozer, or the engine type on a Harley Fat boy? ;)
When did I ever say anything about the US code? Try looking in the right
place, WBMA. I might point out you can NOT find anything that would lead
you to believe your 'so many different vehicles' theory either because that
is not factual. You might also look to the FTC to find the Honda complaint
about Toyotas misleading advertising, regarding 1, 4 and 5 as well ;)
Please stop saying I got my information from a other engineer, that is not
what I said.. What I did get from him was the place to find the reason for
the three different numbers assigned to vehicles assemble in the US, rather
than just one.
OH NO!! Does AL Gore know about that!! One of our greatest natural
resources: VIN's - wasted :)
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address with the letter 'x')
"Full-sized trucks" Funny use of English in America.
You are not talking about proper full-size trucks, presumably :-)
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"Mike Hunter" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
Yes we know that, the Big 2.5 have depended so much on trucks they are
now in big trouble.
Unfortunately their car selection, particularly from Chrysler is very
slim, not enough choice of cars to compete in that category.
As a result Chrysler is into big layoffs, while people like myself don't
see a Chrysler model to replace what we have.
How strange of Chrysler to blame the market when they dug themselves a
hole by not providing product continuity.
I'm sticking with my Concord for now, the longest I've ever kept a car.
If for some reason I need a replacement soon it won't be Chrysler
because they have no product for me.
They did it too themselves.
Today I was in a Toyota dealer which I knew had some connection with my
Chrysler dealer. I learned the connection was very close, the same owner
who sold his Chrysler dealership last year. Very smart of him, he
obviously saw the writing on the wall.
What is your point? GM , Ford and Chrysler buy a lot more parts made in the
US than does Toyota or any other import brand for that matter. Toyota buys
most of the part from other Japanese companies. Notice from whom Toyota
buys all of their steel and tires and most of their parts?
Honda and Nissan do build the Accord as well as Altima and Titan in the US,
that is why they have a '1' as the first number of the VIN. Toyota on the
other hand have a 4 or 5 and only assembled in the US. READ Toyota ads
about what they say are used to assemble their vehicles in the US,
Get real, You apparently do not understand what you read. How can we
possibly 'run out' of VINs? Individual VINs change annual and they vary by
manufacture, plant, body, SRS type, engine, model year, check digit, etc as
well as the sequential build number up to 999,999 Few of which stays
constant yearly LOL
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