Mike, what happened to GM?
The U.K.'s Guardian explains, "Volkswagen-Porsche has overtaken Toyota to
become the world's largest car manufacturer as the German group benefits
from state-backed stimulus packages around the globe." VW has "produced 4.4
million vehicles so far this year, outstripping its Japanese rival which has
seen four million cars roll off production lines since January."
The news doesn't just push Toyota down a notch. Jalopnik notes that VW has
"passed Toyota and GM at the top of the heap." America's largest automaker -
the world's largest just three years ago - now sits in third globally
One thing I think is interesting is that there seem to be regional
differences in the popularity of different car brands. I live in
Oregon, and I actually see quite a few Volkswagens on the road, as well
as Honda, Toyota, Lexus, etc.. It seems that import brands are more
popular here. I do see quite a few cars here made by GM and Ford, too,
but it seems that GM and Ford are more popular in the midwest US.
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:24:10 -0800, Eric O. fired up the etcha-a-sketch
and scratched out:
I noticed that as well.
One time, I made a post on the Avalanche forum about how my truck was the
only domestic (If you call a Mexican-built truck, domestic.) in the
parking lot of my local park.
The rest were Mercedes, BMW, Toyota/Lexus, Honda/Acura and Nissan/
Several posted back that - in the midwest and south - they rarely see
anything but Chevy/Ford/Chrysler.
DUH, does the term "CAR MAKER" have any meaning to you? The fact is
Toyota has been the number one "brand name" car maker in the US for several
years, but GM has been selling more "cars," but they do not have the same
brand name on the grill.
GM cars until recently have five different brand names on the grills of the
CARS it sells. Since the start of the new GM, it only has two three car
brands so it total car sales will surely go down.
GM is still the number one seller of VEHICLES in the US and that includes
TRUCKS. Ford is still number two and Toyota is still number three, in total
VEHICLE sales in the US. The best selling CAR brand car numbers do not
come even close to the top selling TRUCK brand numbers.
The Japanese vehicle manufacture are subsidized by their government as well,
and always have been, ever since WWII LOL
Prove it to yourself, dummy. Search the US Commerce Department site for
the facts. If you do you will discover GM is still the number one seller
of VEHICLES in the US, Ford is still number two and Toyota is still number
three, in total VEHICLE sales in the US. The best selling CAR brand car
numbers do not come even close to the top selling TRUCK brand numbers.
to GM which they a least have a hope of getting some of it back, yet they
will keep on buying jap and korean cars and contribute to the 68 billion
buck a month we send to japan, korea, and china with no hope of getting any
of it back.
its amazing that people in the USA sing the praises of all things foreign
while degrading those of us that try to support
the usa whenever we can. Most of the faulty products I have in the house
are foreign made. a Kenmore refrigerator made by LG has been a piece of crap
it has had five service calls 3 times for the same thing. my old one was
made by Frigidare (GM) and lasted 30 years with no problems. Most kitchen
items are made off shore and are throw aways. My first flat screen made by
LG was a piece of junk failed 2 times one of which took 7 weeks for a part
and it was the wrong one. cell phones 2 years tops if nothing else goes the
battery goes and has to have a expensive replacement.
If you can name some electronics/appliance manufacturers whose products
are 100% made in the US, then I would be surprised. As much as I
appreciate a quality product, the fact of the matter is that one of the
reasons why so many of those brands are popular in the US is because
their products are cheap (not necessarily high in quality). Also, many
American companies contract companies in other countries to build their
products, likely because it's cheaper to do business that way. That's
capitalism for you - one of the founding principles of the US.
That is correct that the way capitalism works. If the government forces up
your costs and reduces your economies of scale, you must re-price you
product or service to stay in business. If you can not do that for the
service you provide then you must raise your price or reduce you work force
or the benefits receives.
If it is your product you can reduce your quality or your price. Reducing
your quality will cost you customers. Reducing your price will reduce the
profits you need to sustain your business. Ether one will send your
customers to the importer, who does not have to deal with all of the US
government mandates and does not have nearly your costs for your materials
The answer becomes simple, join the importer and take advantage of foreign
laws and labor costs for some of your materials or move your entire
production off shore completely.
If the BO and the Dims actually do some of the things they are proposing,
like nation health care and that goofy carbon tax, you can bet the farm that
manufacturing will flee this county in mass, because manufacturers know that
the greed American consumer will buy anything from foreign countries, if
they think they can save a dollar. Even those foreign companies like
Toyota, that now only assemble their products her in the US, will leave as
well, to escape the inevitable higher taxes, inflation and interest rates
coming in the US because of our ever growing nation debt.
God bless America if these loons get their way. Where will your children
and grand children get a job in this country in ten years? The only skill
that they will need is how to say, "Welcome to Wal-Mart," or "Do you want
fries with that?"
Most of the folks around today were not around to remember the days when one
could buy an American made major appliance, when the got married, and have
it till they died.
I have a deep freezer in my home in the Pocono Mountains, because I only go
there a weeks our of the year. It was my mothers, purchased after the war.
My kids keep telling me to get a new one because the are more "efficient."
I say to them, you mean like two we have replaced at home since you were
When I was in retail, we loved the people who bought our Toyotas, because we
could always get a lot more profit on the sale as well as a higher shop rate
for maintenance and make more on parts, than our domestic brands, because
the buyer though the Toyotas were "better."
When I owned my fleet service business, we serviced Toyota owned by some of
the minor fleets. Our records proved that the overall repair rates were no
better than average and they cost the fleet more to buy and were a lot more
expensive to repair, when they did need to be repaired, and all vehicles at
some point NEED to be repaired.
Some of the fleet owners switched to Fords when we compared the repair
histories for them but some still wanted to buy Toyotas because they still
believed the were better, go figure LOL
Perhaps but the subject was, GM not #1, and the largest VEHICLE market, not
just cars, by far in the US and Toyota and the rest of the Jap cars are not
a big sellers Europe. The article was ambiguous in referring to CAR sales
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