GM: Possible pitfalls could derail rebound

Wrong, moron. If you present us information, with nothing except your "good name" to back it up, it isn't facts...It's information provided by a moron. So, either post links proving what you say is actually true, or admit you are full of shit and shut up. Oh, and for the record, saying the same shit over and over does not make it a "fact".

If your reading comprehension wasn't so low you would see that GASKET MATERIALS is exactly what I WAS TALKING ABOUT. Is english not your fisrst language ??

Can you try it again in english, retard.

Well make up your mind, are you talking intakes or gaskets. Or are you so senile that you don't remember what you were talking about ? In your post, which I replied to, YOU were talking about gaskets. My reply was on the topic of gaskets. NOW, YOU are talking about intakes. Pay attention to your own posts, moron.

See above, the topic is GASKETS, not intakes. Pay attention to the subject, you are off topic again.

Jumping to conclusions again, Einstein ?? Or just pulling shit out of your ass, as usual ? I work on cars everyday, been doing it for about 25 years. When I make a comment on this gasket problem my comments come from hands on experience. Like you have been told by most people here before, GM has a gasket problem that has gone on now for ten years or so, that is a fact that you choose to ignore. The problem affects tens of thousand of vehicles, not just one, moron. So you see I am not judging things by one vehicle, eh Einstein. And on the engines affected by this gasket problem, EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE is affected, usually MULTIPLE TIMES. So for the customer this gets to be an EXPENSIVE REPEAT REPAIR.

Show me were I am disparaging GM ! I am simply stating facts, you do now what facts are, don't you....... nevermind.

How did you jump to that conclusion ?

The better question would be why are you here defending GM, you're a Ford man. Every time someone mentions this GM gasket problem you come in here and try to cover it up like it didn't exist. In fact, you come in here to defend GM anytime someone posts about a large scale problem with a GM vehicle. You make yourself look like a fool because everyone here knows these are real problems. If you don't like what GM related info gets posted in a GM newsgroup you can always go to the Ford newsgroup.

You are even slower than I realized. Look up the definition of the word gasket and get back to us dummy. LOL

I never did the home work for my own kids, what makes you think I will do yours. Do you own search WBMA. You person opinion does not mean much. LOL

That's probably because you wanted them to PASS.

Hell of a lot more than yours.

nate

Yup, just like I thought. You have absolutely no proof to back up your claims. Thanks for the admission.

Ya right LOL

Ya right LOL

Remember the old saying: "It is better to be thought of as a moron, then to post to Usenet and prove it".

This guy is a perennial twinkie. Absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

I have just now killfiled him again. Not the first time, but have a new computer.

His circumciser just threw away the wrong piece, I guess.

Get back to "us" ??? Do you have a turd in your pocket or are you with your imaginary friend, you know, the one you get your "facts" from.

I see you snipped half my post so I added it back in for you. I see you are still an idiot.

If your reading comprehension wasn't so low you would see that GASKET MATERIALS is exactly what I WAS TALKING ABOUT. Is english not your fisrst language ??

Can you try it again in english, retard.

Well make up your mind, are you talking intakes or gaskets. Or are you so senile that you don't remember what you were talking about ? In your post, which I replied to, YOU were talking about gaskets. My reply was on the topic of gaskets. NOW, YOU are talking about intakes. Pay attention to your own posts, moron.

See above, the topic is GASKETS, not intakes. Pay attention to the subject, you are off topic again.

Jumping to conclusions again, Einstein ?? Or just pulling shit out of your ass, as usual ? I work on cars everyday, been doing it for about 25 years. When I make a comment on this gasket problem my comments come from hands on experience. Like you have been told by most people here before, GM has a gasket problem that has gone on now for ten years or so, that is a fact that you choose to ignore. The problem affects tens of thousand of vehicles, not just one, moron. So you see I am not judging things by one vehicle, eh Einstein. And on the engines affected by this gasket problem, EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE is affected, usually MULTIPLE TIMES. So for the customer this gets to be an EXPENSIVE REPEAT REPAIR.

Show me were I am disparaging GM ! I am simply stating facts, you do now what facts are, don't you....... nevermind.

How did you jump to that conclusion ?

The better question would be why are you here defending GM, you're a Ford man. Every time someone mentions this GM gasket problem you come in here and try to cover it up like it didn't exist. In fact, you come in here to defend GM anytime someone posts about a large scale problem with a GM vehicle. You make yourself look like a fool because everyone here knows these are real problems. If you don't like what GM related info gets posted in a GM newsgroup you can always go to the Ford newsgroup.

I just don't get why Hunt bothers to come here. Even if he did know all that he claims (which I doubt), if his attitude is "if I don't get paid, I ain't helping", then why come to a group like this one, whose primary function is to help others solve problems? Hell, even when he posts about the auto industry in general, he has not once (that I have ever seen) posted proof of anything he has said. It is my opinion that "Mike Hunt" is an 60 year old man, with no wife, kids, or life at all. He spends his days going to his local Library or Internet Cafe to come onto Usenet and be an ass. Now, there is anything wrong with being 60, having no wife, kids, or life, but the last part gets annoying.

I look in on many auto NGs, I spend a few minutes reading and at times posting on some subjects, but I certainly do not hang in any one. What I do notice is the same people are in them day after day at all hours of the day commenting on most every subject. I only comment when I see posts that are based on half truths and erroneous opinions, to try and set the record straight. What I post are the things I know to be factual based on my nearly 60 years working all three sides of the automotive business. You are free to except what I post or if you do not want to believe what I post do you own search. You will not see me call anybody, who disagrees with what I post, a moron or such because they do not agree. I could not care less what anybody chooses to believe or not believe.

I will be eighty two in a few weeks, I have an engineering degree in metallurgy and worked for thirty years as a both a field engineer at Pennsylvania VW plant and as a design engineer for GM and Ford, the last fifteen years I worked helping in designing crumple zones.

After I retired I was Group Sales Manager for one to the largest mega-dealership groups on the east cost that operated melt-franchised stores in six eastern states, and sold just about any brand you can name. I also established my fleet service business that serviced thousand of vehicles, both domestic and foreign, used by large and small corporate fleets, as well as federal state and locale governmentsin those six eastern states for over ten years.

Stop, you're killing me. Seriously. You're freakin' hilarious.

nate

"Mike hunt" wrote in news:e_ydnUEpVo02zFXanZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@ptd.net:

I believe you are either off your medication or completely ignorant of the vast cost reduction of TV's after the US manufacturers got out of the business. Not only did the prices drop substantially, the quality improved. I worked on TV's in the seventies and the dog models for failures were RCA and Zenith. RCA had outright design flaws and Zenith had major problems with their modular design. The electronics industry is an example of where innovations reduce prices instead of being used to price key items as the auto manufacturers do, at

10 fold more than they should be priced because they are the only source. Many of these items are not high cost items but the manufacturers enjoy a monopoly on these items for a number of years. Combine that with the outrageous production worker wages, compared to other industries, along with management bonuses and you get a 15,000 dollar car which costs 30,000 dollars. I suspect China will keep the Japanese car manufacturers in line. One more thing, I remember in the late sixties or early seventies when GM, Ford, and Chrysler went to Washington with their Lobbyists and demanded a surcharge on imported cars which they got. It was around $300 dollars per car. 2 weeks later GM, Ford, and Chrysler raised the price of their cars the same amount. That has always been the Pattern. If GM, Ford, and Chrysler still had the power and a good reputation for quality products, their cars would be priced above the imports. When you build crap like engines which self destruct with intake leaks and plastic intake manifolds year after year and transmissions which fail prematurely, yet continue production of same, stick the customer with resulting repair bills instead of fixing the problem, you can't charge premium prices for such junk.

What color is the sky in your world? LOL

Nate, dont even waste time with this cretin. We all know something is wrong with him.

You are so funny They do not LOL

That is usually the Internet version of "friends", "chums", or "pals". Knowing your attitude, I can see how you would be completely puzzled by such an experience.

Perhaps. But no one on this group knows you in real life, correct? So, all of what you post could actually be true, but seeing how none of us actually know you, why should we believe everything you type? You need to back up your "facts", Mike. You should know this, if all you say is actually true.

That's not how it works. If you actually do teach classes, when you walk in that door, they know who you are. They know you are there because you can teach them, and they know you have the knowledge. On Usenet, you could just be some teenager with too much time on his hands. You have to back up your "facts" with proof, or no one is going to take you seriously.

If you are referring to me, I call you a Moron because you can't seem to grasp the fact that you have to back up your claims with real information. How do you expect people on Usenet, with no actual knowledge of who you are, to believe everything you say? Especially when some things you say, WE can prove (with proper sources) are incorrect?

I wish you an early Happy Birthday then. But you still don't seem to get my point, Mike. Yes, you could have those degrees, you could have had those jobs, but on Usenet, anything is possible. I could claim to run the biggest chain of GM dealer's in Ontario. But, without any actual proof, it's all blowing smoke.

And, if all that is true, I honestly congratulate you on your success in the auto business. But just try to provide a reference to the facts you throw at us. It will give you a lot more credibility, and you may actually be able to help someone fix a problem.