Yes, I suppose it must seem as though I get my shorts
in a knot occasionally. Sometimes...at least for me...it's
a bit of a balancing act between knowing that there are
a lot of really bad designs and crappy parts on GM vehicles,
and yet feeling like the owner has to take their lumps at
some point with these vehicles.
I can understand this. This is one of the reasons I spend
my time here....hopefully some people will be able to save
some money as car repairs are quite simply unbelievable
at times. Of course it's my living...but there are probably
a million people out there to the one person here on these
newsgroups who have no interest in learning about their
car and will continue to have someone like me do their
repairs for them.
Good for you. I don't subscribe to the notion that you are selling
out either Canada or the USA by buying a Japanese automobile.
Their quality is much better then the American built stuff. The best
car we ever owned was a 1980 Toyota Corona. I did only the
most minor repairs and maintenance to the that vehicle thru 330,000
klms. If it wasn't for the rusty body...I'd have kept it a few more
years. If people only knew what country of origin is on almost
every GM part....I'll give you a clue....it's almost never Canada
or the States. There is no such thing as an "American made" or
"Canadian made" vehicle anymore. It's a global market, folks.
Better get used to it.
Well, "bearing a cross" would put me in some company that is
too far above me. Thanks for the comments....I just need to remind
myself of some advice that my father used to give me......"never take
what anyone says personally".
Ian, if you're still watching this thread - just curious if the recall for
this problem (the new fasteners and sealant) really "fixes" it, at least for
some reasonable time? It was done on my '02 Impala LS. Since I got the
recall notice in the mail, my car must have been built before the redesign.
It hasn't been long enough to really tell, but I
think that it probably helps. The whole idea
of the new nut design is to maintain the proper
torque at those locations. Perhaps they discovered
that the old style nuts were backing off. In any case,
I think that the plastic upper manifold design is just
a poor one. Especially if the manifold is a "wet"
design. Cadillac uses the same style (plastic) intake
on the Northstar, but there are no fluids running
through it. So there are no problems with that intake
manifold. Same story with the new generation of
chev small block engines. Big fancy plastic intake,
but it's a dry one.
Ok, thanks for the input. Since I typically keep my cars a long time (got
15 years out of my 86 Thunderbird) I may consider a preemptive replacement
of this gasket after the warranty is up in a year. We'll see how people are
faring with the recall fix at that point and if it's really doing the trick.
| Ok, thanks for the input. Since I typically keep my cars a long time (got
| 15 years out of my 86 Thunderbird) I may consider a preemptive replacement
| of this gasket after the warranty is up in a year. We'll see how people are
| faring with the recall fix at that point and if it's really doing the trick.
My guess is that the intent of the cheap manufacturers "fix" is to get the
engine to go without leaks beyond the warranty period so that the real fix is
on the customers dime later.
Except... for the sh*tty taste it leaves in the mouths of people
who won't buy another GM ever because their last one was a POS
and GM crapped all over them. Pissing off your customers is
a good way to have them become former customers and tell 10 people
that GM sucks... and that takes a lot of work to undo...
remember the ads GM just ran that basically said "sorry our cars sucked
10 years ago? they're better now"
(who owns 5 GM products.)
Yes...you are right...except that there tons of former
Ford and Chryster customers now buying a GM and
telling 10 people each that Ford and Chrysler suck.
It never really ends....there will always be the
discontented customer here or over there.
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