Re: Defeat ABS Brakes on 94 Chev. Lumina Sedan

Never pump your brakes when driving a car with an ABS system, it will only confuse the ABS and possibly increase your stopping distance.

nate

Brad wrote:

The benefit of ABS is you don't have to pump and you can stop straight or steer. IMO, they are at their best in slippery conditions in the winter. Of course, they are not a substitute for common sense and slowing down when slippery. I just don't understand why anyone would want to disconnect them.

Here's a clue for you, they don't necessarily fail safe. I know, it happened to me (they simply wouldn't stop the car, coupled with a gurgling noise emanating from under the hood) more than once (to no avail, I nearly put my foot through the firewall trying to stop) before the dash light came on (now permanently) indicating a problem. Although neither slow-speed occasion resulted in an impact, I have no desire to either relive those experiences nor have them repaired just to await a possible repeat performance pending the next failure.

Greetings,

Since I'm sure you had both problems fixed after they happened, just what went wrong with the ABS that caused your foundation brakes to fail? Was it an ABS-specific part or something like a master cylinder?

I've looked over ABS brakes both on vehicles on on schematics and the only thing I can think of that would cause a problem of the magnitude that you describe would be either a broken coupling or a crimped line either into or out of the ABS pump, which in and of itself is not a problem with the ABS but with the plumbing that could have happened anywhere.

Please let us know.

Cheers - Jonathan

In more than two years of driving since the described incident(s), I've yet to encounter any other problem whatsoever with the braking system other than the amber? ABS light continues to remain illuminated. Should it not have been clear, the pedal cannot be "worked" down to the firewall.

I don't care about clues, what counts are facts.

If you had two failures, I can understand your reluctance to "fix" them. Facts are, anything mechanical or electrical will eventually fail. In my experience, they have been a help and have not failed, so my plan is to continue using them.

You posed the inquiry: "I just don't understand why anyone would want to disconnect them". You were presented with factual evidence as to how and why it is that a user decided to no longer trust a specific, critical system that unexpectably failed in a wholly unacceptable manner. What you choose for yourself is neither my concern nor was it my motivation for providing an answer to your lack of understanding.

The question should be WHY are the brakes not working. In the event of a compete failure of the ABS, the vehicle will still have convention braking, the only thing lost is the anti locking feature. The problem is apparently with the brakes, not the ABS. .

Take the vehicle to a competent technician to determine the fault, with the conventional brakes, before you kill yourself, WBMA.

mike hunt

As unmistakably explained earlier, the conventional/ foundation brakes continue to operate flawlessly to this point in time. You cleary have quite significant difficulties with logic and reading comprehension.

And you, are quite the moron. If your brakes still work, what is it you want?

And you take the proverbial cake. You are positively imbecilic! Try, just TRY re-reading the thread (I'll give you a week, you'll quite evidently require every last second of it) and see if you can find ANYWHERE where I've come close to so much as implying a request for anything other than perhaps competence, which is so clearly in short supply with your ilk.

"Unmistakably explained." Really? What I was responding to was the statement "they don't necessarily fail safe. I know, it happened to me (they simply wouldn't stop the car, coupled with a gurgling noise emanating from under the hood) more than once (to no avail, I nearly put my foot through the firewall trying to stop)

mike hunt

And just what was it in or about the following paragraph posted Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:28 PM in this thread that so thoroughly escaped your comprehension:

"In more than two years of driving since the described incident(s), I've yet to encounter any other problem whatsoever with the braking system other than the amber? ABS light continues to remain illuminated. Should it not have been clear, the pedal cannot be "worked" down to the firewall."

The intellect of the denizens in Usenet Newsgroups has declined to the point of rendering this once worthwhile utility largely valueless for anything other than humor.

Oops wrong date and time, should have read:

And just what was it in or about the following paragraph posted Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:27 PM in this thread that so thoroughly escaped your ...

But then again, I really shouldn't need to either spoon feed nor proivide remedial reading material which you could and should have read and understood the first time.

Yawn. You posted that your ABS light was on, so I assumed you required assistance. Unfortunately, I think you need 'alt.why.am.I.a.prick' instead of a GM group.

Not even a "moron in a hurry" could have legitimately thought that that was my point or come to that conclusion from my words and what has been posted here by others. And given that it's all undeniably here in writing, there really are only two possibilities: You are either even more stupid yourself, or hope and expect that your audience must be, although I can't imagine who it could be that you think you're actually kidding. Res ipsa loquitor.

You are a transparent liar, an attempted cheat and a total buffoon.

Aren't you the same guy that just wrote: "The intellect of the denizens in Usenet Newsgroups has declined to the point of rendering this once worthwhile utility largely valueless for anything other than humor."

I have to agree, you did give me a chuckle.

I'm human and make mistakes, but most often quickly catch those of any consequence on my own, always own up to them and correct them myself (as was evidenced by that very example), unlike so very many others, particularly in this newsgroup.

We agree, your posts have made us all chuckle. ;)

mike hunt