Re: Don't compare the PT Cruiser to a Gremlin

May 06, 2004 12 Replies

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Bill Putney 22 years ago

> I'm sure those were fine cars for their day, but they can't compare to
> the performance and versatility of new cars like the PT Cruiser GT. >
> Here are some times for those old nostalgic cars for 0-60 and 1/4 > mile:
> ...Of course, the Gremlin was a joke:
> 1977 AMC Gremlin X 17.9 20.8 (
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A tiny car like the Gremlin with a 304 V-8? I find those times really hard to believe. Maybe they loaded those statistics by matching the smallest engines available?

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Steve B. 22 years ago

Overall length on a 72 Gremlin was 161 inches. A mid 80's Mustang was

181 inches. Not that much difference and those came with 5.0's all day long. I think we just remember them as tiny because everything else back then was so HUGE.

Steve B.

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Bill Putney 22 years ago

Woa! All I knew about was the 304 - borrowed a friends a couple of times. Even that was dangerous in the hands of a youngster! 360 or

401!? I can't imagine.

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Bill Putney 22 years ago

FWIW, 5.0L = 305 CI.

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Steve B. 22 years ago

That was my point Bill. You said that you "find those times really hard to believe". I was trying to point out the car wasn't really all that little and similarly powered cars have been offered in recent years.

Steve B.

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Bret Chase 22 years ago

the Ford 5.0 is a 302 CI.. it works out to like 4.95l or something so they rounded it up.

-Bret

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Justin 22 years ago

You could also get a 2.3 liter 4 cylinder, turbo or nonturbo, an inline six and the 5.0 V8 of course in a mid 80's Mustang.

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Geoff 22 years ago

20 inches is a big difference when it comes to vehicles. A 2003 Neon: 174.4 inches. An Intrepid? 203.7 inches. That's less than 30 inches overall length between the smallest and largest models Dodge made that year.

A 2003 Caravan is 189.3 inches long (the Grand Caravan 200.5). So a Neon is less than 15 inches shorter than a Caravan, and the Intrepid is longer than a Grand Caravanl!

Incidently, a 2WD RAM regular-cab pickup with an 8' box is 229.7 inches long.

--Geoff

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Bill Putney 22 years ago

Got it - thanks!

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Bill Putney 22 years ago

Close enough - 1% diff. Thanks for the info. - it's good to be accurate and precise.

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Bret Chase 22 years ago

Ford never made a 305... it's an insult to the 302 (or GM's 67-69 302) to call it such.

-Bret

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Bill Putney 22 years ago

No one called it such. I simply did a conversion from the nominally stated 5.0 liters. I didn't realize it was an emotional number.

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Dori A Schmetterling 22 years ago

I had the 300 Hz Omega version. Gave off an attractiveand impressive whine when held to the ear. Don't know where it is anymore.

Sigh.

DAS

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