Re: HELP!!! Seized Motor Removal

Believe it or not that is exactly the same solution I came up with at dinner. I was so frustrated at the car that I had a mental block. Thanks for confirming what I am going to do with it. If I can't actually unbolt the pan to get it out of the way, I will take a cutting wheel to it and make it get out of my way. Motor is junk anyway.

Anyone need bit parts from a 3.1

John

I wonder if it's better to remove head, and shatter piston ? I'm assuming you,ve tried oiling the cylinders, and attempting to rotate in * both * directions. A melted piston might turn one direction, not the other. The mains approach sounds good, yank rod caps, try pushing each piston up, may wind up torching seized rod [ s ]

Best of luck

"KenG" wrote

The only time you want to remove the torque converter with the engine is in the case of a seized engine. Of course, you have to have the room to be able to do this, and in the OP's case, you would not be able to do this with the powertrain in the vehicle. You would have to drop the entire powertrain out the bottom and "then" pull the engine and torque converter out. There is always a good possibility that you can damage the converter bushings and the input shaft on the trans. But when you have a seized engine...you do what you have to do.

Ian

Just yank the converter with the engine. It's messy, but necessary.

You are correct. Just yank it with the engine. Unbolt later.

Well DUH. You have to remove stuff till there is MORE clearance. OR pull the trans off first.

"Steve Barker" wrote

Ahhhh...what do you suggest removing, Steve....on a front wheel drive Grand Am? Maybe the passenger fender, and then cut a section of the body out? You haven't done many of these, have you?

Ian

Plenty. Just pull the sub frame, then the trans. You got a better idea? BUT it's all a moot point, because he already butchered the pan and got it out.

"Steve Barker" wrote

That was "one" of your options. The other was "Well DUH. You have to remove stuff till there is MORE clearance". And how would you accomplish "that" without removing the sub and trans?

Ian

So you mean take off the right fender and cut out the right strut tower?? Should I use a torch, ,or would a sawzall work? And could you recommend a good welder to put it all back??

John

Hey group

Thanks for all the input. Yes, I chose to butcher the oil pan on an already butchered engine. It worked wonderfully and saved butloads of time and energy.

Note to Steve..If I was going to take the time and go through the trouble of removing the subframe, then I could have UNBOLTED the oilpan and removed it correctly, by the manual. Since I work in my driveway, and do not have any of the specialty JXXXXX GM tools, hanging the motor off my cherry picker to remove the subframe would have gotten in the way of removing the frame. Also..I only own one jack, and that was strategically holding up the tranny. Time is money and a 160K blown engine is worth little to nothing.

Thanks all again

John