> really ? wait till you pull that dash or pay the repair bill
Yep - I've read thru the procedure in the FSM a couple of times, and
I've been into certain areas of the dash already for other things, so I
know what to expect. I realize it won't be fun at all, but I also
shudder to think of the problems a careless tech could leave behind and
the endless loop of trying to get the problems fixed until I give up and
re-do it myself (in which case, I might as well do it myself to begin
with). BTDT. :)
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
In support, yes you can save a lot of money with DIY.. I am now pulling the
core out of my 97 Dodge full sized van. I read the procedure in the cheapo
also in AllData. But there is more to it than that. It doesnt just "angle
out of the
Now I will start taking off crap until I get it out. No telling how far that
will have to go.
Still, I dont need the van much,and it can sit there until I am good and
It is only justified if the cost of repairs exceeds the cost of the
insurance (it is sold like insurance, a service contract pays for actual
services). Considering the typical cost of the policy is about $1200, you
need at least one large or two medium expenses to be covered. The total
expenses of my last four cars combined would not have made that amount in
the first 100,000 miles. As the car gets older and more miles, the cost of
the policy goes up making it even less attractive.
If it makes you warm and fuzzy feeling, by all means, buy it. If you are
practical and have $500 in the bank to cover repairs, it is a money loser.
As I said, a few people may make out on the deal, but most do not. That is
how the insurance companies make money.
More accurately, that wouldn't be covered another another manufacturer
program, like a recall.
More accurately, if you are practical and will have $750 in the bank at
the end of regular warranty or a credit card with a low APR, it's a
money loser, assuming you don't sell the vehicle first and it doesn't
Buicks and an 07 Hyundai Sonata. My '91 Regal had one potentially costly
repair under warranty. Out of warranty, a water pump at 80k, a gas tank at
110,000. .I traded it last September with 150,000 miles and it still had
the original exhaust. Of course, normal maintenance like brakes and a set of
rotors at some point.
My '97 leSabre was back to the shop only once for a warranty repair (wiper
motor) and when I traded it at 97,000 miles the only repairs at that point
was brakes, serpentine belt. My '01 LeSabre has needed a few things but
still not al that much $$$. The rear window lifts, but I did not replace
them, a wheel bearing, front rotors were are few hundred. Needed tranny
work, but that was far out of regular or extended warranty time. At 110,000
I put in new plugs, wires and a coil. I expect to keep that car for another
5 years or more. Hyundai only has 17,000 miles and has not been back to the
dealer for anything so far.
Anything mechanical eventually will wear out and need repair. You have to
be financially prepared and aware of that. If you save just a few bucks,
say $20 a month, you can cover most costly repairs when they do come up.
If you drive 15,000 miles a year, after 4 years you will have no serious
repairs not covered and $1000 in the bank. You may or may not ever need
that, making it available for other uses. The other choice is to pay that
$20 a month more in your car payment for an extended warranty and have paid
out $1000 that you will never see again even if you never need a repair.
Willing to take the risk and self insure?
In my case, I put 25,000 miles a year so the warranty runs out after 4
years. At about that time the car is replaced and it becomes my wife's car
and gets <2000 miles year.
Even the new 4 cylinders are getting away from the belt. As I said, get
with the times. A year ago I laughed at people buying Hyundai, then I took
a look. I was astonished at how far they've come and ended up buying one.
Two weeks ago I went to lunch with a fellow that owns a Sebring, Camry,
Corvette. After riding in my Sonata, he's heading out to the Hyundai dealer
buy american the job you save just might be your own
in my book buying asian is right up there with treason regardless of who makes
a better product.i bet you won't support the troops either!
i can't wait till you have to pay those repairs and see how many folks won't
touch them and the ones that do charge accordingly
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
First off, it was built by Americans in an American plant with a growing
content of American made parts.
As for those that won't touch then for repairs, 40 years ago a few shops
didn't have metric wrenches. Now, it seems most of them actually do. I
don't expect the repairs to be any more than any other mainstream
automobile. I got shafted by Buick enough so I've prepared my sphincter
muscle. If my Buick was not falling apart in the driveway, I'd have another
right next to it.
As for the troops, I have family members in Iraq and I do support all of
them. When you can't make sound logical arguments in a debate you have to
resort to name calling like that? You should be ashamed of yourself and
your false patriotism.
Or a GM built in Canada :) All 5 of my GM's I own or have owned have
been the old vin 2's. The 1 (mistake) of a Ford I owned was a vin 1,
And if you don't know what that means, look it up ;)
I always figured that Canada and the USA were so close together in many
that we were more like family kin anyway.
Maybe I am just too cynical in my goldening years, but the sort of ethic
moral that I see in the USA today is not reassuring that we will give anyone
strong competition in the future.
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