Sort of, they were never and will never be a part of our healthcare system.
I'm not so sure the Canadian system is any better.
As for war, if we had a real one, I'm confident they'd be right along side
You are correct, it isn't a perfect system. I was told I needed to have
another disc removed from my back, in January. The surgery date was
postponed again and again, and I just had it done this past Monday. It
wasn't major surgery, but I still had to wait several months. And, the
surgery was the result of a work injury. On the other hand, I can go see my
Dr., make as many emergency room visits as necessary, or even use
after-hours-clinics and not have to pay to use them.
Amen. I've had many Canadian friends over the years and more than a few
relatives, who like to bash the American health care system. Well, it's
easy to do - it has plenty of flaws. That said, when you look at the price
paid compared to the value obtained, the Canadian system seems to be no
better than ours. Free services aren't worth much when you pay 50% of your
income to taxes to pay for a system that only works for the trivial things.
Hell - we have really cheap emergency room care and doctor visits. I still
have not seen where the Canadian system has proven to be in any way
superior. Maybe in concept, but not in practice.
Canadians are always telling about long waits for serious issues. Many come
down here for services because the waits are so long in Canada. The only
immediate benefit seems to be for trivial office visit type of care, not for
more critical, and complex issues.
Yes, there are at times very large waiting lists. It depends on what you
need done, and where you live. However, when a Canadian with no insurance
comes to the USA to get a procedure done, how much does it cost? I would
rather wait in line, then have a system that gives to the rich, and makes
the poor wait. Again, no offence intended towards you. Neither system is
I went over ten years without health coverage.
It became a choice of paying the rent, or paying the premiums.
I guess I'd rather be on a Canadian wait-list
than on an American "nothing at all"
On the other hand, if I'd been on welfare, or AFDC,
then my health and dental would've been free !
In the US, they punish the working poor,
but reward the welfare recipients.
Show me a hospital where that has actually happened. The laws state that
NO hospital can refuse to treat a patient presenting a life threatening
condition. They also cannot refuse treatment based on the ability or
lack of to pay. You might want to look at how much health care hospitals
in the US provide FREE to people. There is a LOT and it is growing all
the time with all the illegals and welfare changes being made. Also look
at how many hospitals are being closed down by the states they are in.
In this area alone there have been 6 closed in the past 2 years. WHY?
Because the liberals keep forcing more legislation to "help the poor".
They seem to forget that the TRULY poor already don't pay for a lot of
what they get.
I don't know the name of the hospital, but one example was in Washington
State. My sister in laws younger sister was skiing at Mount Baker. Another
person ran into her, and she went into diabetic shock. The hospital would
not admit her, until friends coughed up $700.00 in cash.
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Certain private hospitals can do that. Community hospitals must take anyone.
It depends on how the hospital was chartered. I don't know the details of
it all, but it is a sad situation the few times it does happen.
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