Pobably, rumors are that back in the day 20 plus years ago many of the
American car Execs dissed consumer reports, so to this day CR adds there own
little twists to the reports to diss them, then the consumer reads the
reports and takes it as the gospel word and goes out and buys what they say
they should buy. Strange indeed that Americans have become such sheeple who
will follow the Pied Piper off a cliff if he says so.
Now there's a remarkable statement that flies in the sense of common sense.
Why would a publication that accepts no advertising, that actually BUYS the
items that it evaluates, that uses well educated/qualified technicians to
design and perform the testing, that forbids that it's rankings be used in
advertising...and is aggressive about enforcing that, that polls its large
user base for reliability ratings...why would such a publication be held in
anything but high respect, except by those who get a, deservedly, poor
I don't care for CR's occasional left-wing politics, myself, but when it
comes to objective (and just a little subjective) evaluation of hardware,
they are without peer and unimpeachable.
I can't remember how long ago this was, sometimes in the mid 90's. CR rated
two fords, both had a 5.0 engine, Mustang was one ,and I think the other was
a Lincoln, any ways the Mustang got great reviews especially the long term
reliability of the 302 engine. They then complained about the Lincoln engine
being unreliable, yet it was the same engine. I've caught quite a few fau
pauxs like this in many of their ratings, they praise one vehicle, and then
demolish another, yet the two vehicles are identical just different badging.
Another example in CRs current ratings for the Crown Vic and the Grand
Marquis, that have consistently been the most dependable value priced
vehicles on the road, which are in fact the same vehicle with different
trim. Rating them differently indicates their methodology is flawed and
You might consider actually looking at what CR says about cars before you
denounce what they say (or more accurately didn't say).
Let's see April '06 issue p. 49. The Crown Vic gets an average rating for
reliability and owner satisfaction and is recommended. Then on page 63 we
have the Grand marquis that gets an average rating for reliability and for
owner satisfaction and is recommended. (Both get black dots for
Gee, they rate the same. What the heck are you talking about?
Apparently not. Actually consumer do NOT go out and buy those recommend by
CR, since their top ten vehicles does not mirror the top ten selling
vehicles in the US. GM and Ford sell millions more of their vehicles
annually in the US than does any import. Chrysler sells hundred of
thousands more then the best selling import as well. Seems to me only
those easily duped by CRs opinions are buying those suggest by CR as being
'better' vehicles LOL
CR has been good to us, I have no problems with their recommended best-buys,
they tend to hit the nail on the head. We purchased our Club Wagon with
their recommendation in mind. We had a Taurus at the time, you know, the
model from hell. Well, purchased a Club anyway and have loved it (we had 4
kids then, we have 6 now with 1 on the way). It has been a good van and the
problems that we have had were identified by CR so we knew what we were
getting into. Maybe there is a lot of emotion behind anti-CR rhetoric. I
know I can't afford to have the "BEST" car, that doesn't mean I should get
mad at CR. That's stupid. I at least can know the possible problems I will
experience on a percentage basis. If 95% or cars are deemed bad, I'm sure
that the 5% of those who purchased good cars will strongly disagree.
Uh, you are abusing the term "problematic". It means:
Debatable: open to doubt or debate; "If you ever get married, which seems to
be extremely problematic"
Baffling: making great mental demands; hard to comprehend or solve or
believe; "a baffling problem"; "I faced the knotty problem of what to have
for breakfast"; "a problematic situation at home"
It does not mean trouble-prone as you seem to think. And, again, you are
misinterpreting the five year old model reliability numbers that CR
publishes. Please read the caption next to the graphs.
Actually, the Honda Accord is the #2 best selling medium sized sedan. The
Camry is #1. The Prius is the best selling hybrid. Honda Odysseys sell very
well, although Chrysler may out-sell them (Odysseys are pricey). The Civic
sells well in a crowded segment. And gee, no rebates on any of them!
Japanes cars are overated, my brothers wife has a 2000 Mazda cant rember the
model, the one at the top of the line before making the Millinium. The car
has maybe a little over 110k miles on it and has been thru 2 transmissions.
It rides like a truck with rattles all over the place. It is there second
Mazda the first one didnt last either but she still wanted another
one...just goes to show how people get brainwashed.
You certainly are entitled to your own opinion and can spend your money
wherever you wish. If you want to rely on the opinions of others, look at
the sales figures. Most buyers do not agree with your opinion or spend
their money were you do, or as CR suggests. When it comes time to spend
their hard earned money US buyers buy a lot more products for GM, Ford and
Chrysler than they do from Toyota, Honda or any other import brand, period.
The true test of what is 'best' is in the total annual sales figures.
Obviously more buyer believe domestics make the better vehicles
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