Primarily because Consumer Reports, Sucks. If you go through about half
of their reporting and then compare the items rated you find a Lot of
OOPS. For instance they were rating Domestic Trucks in one issue. Ford,
Dodge GMC and Chevy were all in there. The two GM rigs were rated almost
as different from each other as they were from the Ford and Dodge. Real
good job considering they are the EXACT same truck built on the same
line. Or the time I read how great the Suzuki Swift was compared to a
Geo, which were also the same car. They do it all the time and it seems
that anything with a foreign name gets rated higher than domestic items.
"Jason Hsu" <jason email@example.com> wrote in message
I subscribed to CR for 15 years and finally realized that they didn't
know what they were talking about. I bought some of the items that they
had listed as "best buy" and was never more dissapointed. One item (an
electric mixer) failed wthin 6 months of purchase. Their love of
everything imported puzzles me and BTW have you noticed that most of
their staff speak with foreign accents? Makes you wonder.
I nearly died laughing when they tested home loudspeakers in an anechoic
chamber and assigned an "accuracy" score based on a frequency sweep and a
calibrated microphone picking up the sound.
Only problem with that method is that loudspeakers are not designed to be
listened to in anechoic chambers but in normal living rooms.
BTW at that time the Bose 901 speakers were top rated and anyone in the
audio inductry will tell you that they sound terrible.
Chevrolet and Pontiac lack the larger engines in general and have
fewer features. The Cadillacs are overpriced and full of electronics
that cna break. Oldsmobile was merged into Buick(finally!).
CR's criteria is based upon the needs for a typical surburbanite
midwestern family. Every other need or type of person - the magazine is
Why should engine size and features affect reliability survey results?
That can't be the reason Chevrolets and Pontiacs have poorer CR
repair records than Buick. If anything, Chevrolets should be the most
reliable (or least unreliable) because there are fewer gadgets to
And how could Buick fare better than Oldsmobile in CR's reliability
surveys? Weren't Oldsmobiles Buick clones? Didn't GM get rid of
Oldsmobile because it was too much like Buick?
Jason Hsu, AG4DG
usenet AAATTT jasonhsu.com
CR is full of goofballs.
Go check out their car review issue. What rating do they give
the Grand Cherokee for reliability?
Now, go back to the data. All good, very good, and excellent. Not
one balck of half-balck rating for the last 2-3 years. Yet, full
black final rating. What gives?
They are obviuously cooking the books.
Mechanicaly, the two are very simmilar, other than options and engines.
The only real difference are the econoboxes and Cadillacs - where the
Mercedes like electronic nightmare/testbed occurs.
And the prrof of it was 1 or 2 years ago in its car issue in that they
stated that they didn't get enough reliability data for the Mustang GT
of that year but did get enough data for the A6 4.2... Come on,
Mustang GT sells like hot cakes!
Because old people drive them, and would tend to take care of them better
because they would stick to the scheduled maintenance that the service
advisors tell them to do. plus they dont abuse their cars, gun them race
HAHA....you should see my gramps, he has a 2001 LeSabre and a 2004 Sierra,
you should see how many times he guns it and races people. One time coming
home from our farm he hit ~110 to cut someone off that cut him off and
there's always at least one thing like that every trip. In his Sierra the
first 10 minutes he had it he already gunned it to not let some guy cut him
off. All he does are the oil/filter changes too.
Consumer Reports is a very mis-informed organization. Personally, I look at
JDpower for recommendations. JDpower bases their opinions on polls taken
from the very people that buy the equipment, and even though Land Rover is
named as best in initial quality, the truth comes out in long term quality
tests (I use Land Rover as an example, because it tops initial quality,
while bottoms out at long term quality). Consumer Reports has been screwing
up for years now, this is why they are hurting. Already adding 'buy now'
features to their web site - which basically goes against what they said
they are about.
GM, according to JDPower, is getting really close to challenging Toyota in
quality. GM is not quite there, but close. This is according to JDpower.
However, I bought a 2003 Toyota 4runner, and a Cadillac CTS. The CTS has not
been back to the dealer once, the 4 Runner has been back 4 times.
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