Have owned front wheel drive cars for 30 years, and this is the first time I have had a CV joint go on me where the boot didn't go first. Less than 150,000 miles - both joints shot. Boots in perfect condition - no cracks, no leaks. Last vehicle, 94 Nisson Quest (only non Honda made vehicle I have had since 1979), I sold at 194,000 miles and still no noticable wear and tear on joints.
Anyone else approaching this kind of milage on their 2003 or later Accords? Would be interested to hear what others are experiencing.
Bob
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96 EX Accord w 150k miles. On right inner & outer & left inner cvjoints there...
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Dave Kelsen
On 2/9/2010 6:19 PM rjdriver spake these words of knowledge:
My '03 Accord has just over 140,000 miles. No problems yet.
RFT!!! Dave Kelsen
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Tegger
"rjdriver" wrote in news:mXmcn.141975$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe08.iad:
That /is/ really odd.
Are the joints US-made? The Jap-made ones last 250K easy.
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Eternal Searcher
Highly unusual for a 7-year old Honda unless it has been driven very aggressively.
BTW, are you sure it is the CV joints? What symptoms are you experiencing?
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rjdriver
Japanese made.
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jim beam
is this the v6?
this is common on after-market cv joints, but us old school honda drivers get great mileage on oem if the boots are maintained properly.
my suspicion would be that honda have switched to heat treated vs case hardened componentry. heat treated is cheaper and what i suspect was the problem with their failed transmissions of this era also.
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Bob Jones
How do you know? 03 Accords have mostly US parts.
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rjdriver
Car was assembled in Japan. Would assume the axle/joints were also.
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rjdriver
It's the 4 cylinder engine, and these are the original joints. I will be getting a new car before this one hits 200,000 miles, so I got non Honda replacements, but I was still shocked at how cheap they were. USA Industries - $110.00. $212.00 installed. Something is definitively different about this axle/joint assembly. Previous quotes for this type of part on other cars have been as high as $400.00, installed.
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Zorro_2k
The CV boots are fine on my '01 Civic with 295K miles (95% highway), but I've had some occasional clicking in my CV joints for a couple years. Given that most of my driving is in a straight line, I live with it.
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Bob Jones
< The CV boots are fine on my '01 Civic with 295K miles (95% highway), < but I've had some < occasional clicking in my CV joints for a couple years. Given that < most of my driving is in a straight line, < I live with it.
You are very lucky. All the cars I have owned have torn cv boots around
100K.
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Tegger
"Bob Jones" wrote in news:4b75ec47$0$24392$c3e8da3 @news.astraweb.com:
Honda has changed its boot chemistry. The newest boots (from about 2003) should pretty much last the life of the car.
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Grumpy AuContraire
My experience with boot failure other than time/mileage is encountering road hazards. A small branch can raise holy hell with boots and I've even seen splits from rocks tossed about. Really irksome after a recent boot replacement!
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Tegger
Grumpy AuContraire wrote in news:BN6dneOTHaprQuvWnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:
I've never seen that myself. Boots are made of some sort of unbelievably tough rubber. I can't imagine /anything/ being able to tear into a CV joint boot, even an aftermarket one.
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jim beam
bouncing rocks and stones do it easily enough. it's just rubber sandwiched between two hard things - the sharp edge of a stone and the driveshaft internals. it's not that common, but it happens. barbed wire works great too.
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rjdriver
The boots may last the life othe car. But it doesn't much matter if the joints don't. Mine were only good for 150m miles. But aftermarket replacements were surprisingly affordable.
Bob
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Dave D
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I agree that Honda's boots, as well as several other mfgrs', with the new formulae are worlds better than those that went before. However, even Honda's boots in my vicinity are lucky to last more than two winters before they crack/split... Has something to do with temps in the -40F and colder...
DaveD
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Guy
-40F, wow!! Where are you located, north Alaska?
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Dave D
No. Actually, interior Alaska. Just outside Fairbanks...North Pole (no kidding) Alaska. DaveD
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Guy
Too cold for me now but power to you. I wonder how cold (sustained) the average car (Honda included) can handle if properly maintained? And what is the proper maintenance for negative temps for a Honda car? What about the battery? Does the extreme cold shorten the life of the car battery?
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Dave D
"Guy" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...
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My '86 Civic has been here all but a few months of its life and is doing fine (until some bozo backed over the left front fender). Its taken me nearly 5 yearsto get everything back in order. It was driveable but need a bunch of cosmetic surgery and spare parts are hard to find. My '82 F250 has spent all of its life here and did fine up to 150k miles when the 300I6 began to tire a bit. Did some minor work (carb rebuild, new timing gear) and it is back in the pink. My other two trucks, '94 F250 and '04 F350, are both diesels and have given me no problems to speak of. Well, I did have a problem with the injector pump on the '94. Its a 7.3L IDI and a large number of the remanufactured injector pumps were not up to specs and failed. Ford replaced the whole lot of them under warranty - cost me nothing, except time. Maintenance on any, except the diesels, is standard. Clean oil (5W-20), filter every 3k. Fuel filter yearly. Manual tranny runs 70wt gear lube, all the time. Keep battery connections clean, make sure the charging system is good. Check the cv boots each spring just before break-up (when all the snow melts). Brake rotors are problematic - warped rotors are fairly common during the melt. Very cold water in the puddles hit those hot rotors and ........ Suspension suffers from the bad road conditions - must watch that. Batteries, contrary to popular belief, are more affected by heat than cold but the cold does slow down the chemical reaction in the battery and the draw on a batter is increased by the stiffness and resistance of mechanical operations (turning the engine over for example), running the heater most of the time, and lights most of the time. Cold and dark are a pair...Geez - didn't mean to make a book out of this... DaveD
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