I"m wanting to know how much oil consumption is too much?
Is it what the factory would lead one to believe?
I find it hard to believe, and disgusted that I'm expected to believe
that 1 quart per 1000 miles is the acceptable limit.
My 05 Accord, 4 cyl, 5 spd manual, 40 mile commute each way uses far
less, but still uses some.
I'm in a debate wether I should just add oil and not indicate to the
dealer that it consumes oil, so I can trade it in, and say hell with
it. They never told me. I won't tell them. OR find out more about
this oil consumption test, and what it entails. And more importantly
what they'll do about it, if it doesnt meet the 'excess of 1
I have never missed a scheduled appointment. I keep my tires
inflated. I do run it at 70-75 mph for a good part of my commute.
I warm it up well, and I get 28 - 31 mpg tank to tank.
I'd say that I'm using 1/2 a dipstick mark in 3200 miles.
22,400 miles on the car, and the consumption has seemed the same,
throughout, since new..
email@example.com (George C.) wrote in
1,000 miles bottom limit of "acceptable", and the reason they tell you it's
"acceptable" is because a new motor which has that kind of consumption has
some sort of defect (assuming no abuse or neglect), and will end up being
replaced under warranty soon anyway. So there's no point in doing anything
Keep a sharp eye on your consumption, make certain you never allow the
level to dip below minimum, and know exactly when your engine's warranty is
You have to tell them, and tell them as soon as possible. You are still
under warranty. You MUST keep them abreast of this problem and give them
ample opportunity to fix it under the warranty period. If you never bring
it in until the very end of the warranty, they could have cause to be able
to claim neglect or abuse.
Dig up EVERY oil change receipt you have. This will be critical.
Oh, I thought you were using a quart per thousand. You're actually using a
quart per 6,400, which is pretty good and nothing to worry about.
Are there TWO cars involved here? You mention only one, but allude to a
does that mean you let it idle on the driveway before moving off? don't
do that. excess fuel is injected at startup and this dilutes the oil
film on the cylinder walls. if you start & drive, [as per the owners
manual], this action is over as quickly as possible. if the motor idles
to warm up, the process is much prolonged - oil gets washed away and burned.
factory spec has been stated by others. it's possible you have a dud,
so again, as stated by others, keep an eye on the warranty. try the
above and see what happens.
Don't forget, a little oil seepage past seals, gaskets, etc. can add up.
And, what about the PCV valve that is sucking oil mist fumes out of your
crankcase and burning them? If I was using no oil, I would be more
worried than if I was using just a little. More than likely, some of these
cars that are using no oil are in fact using some as many people/dealers
overfill the oil capacity by about 1/2 a quart at oil change time. This
does no damage and ends up protecting many of us that don't check our oil
level very often. If it was me, I would top up the oil with a 1/2 quart
after 2,000 / 2,500 miles and change it at 4,500. Just my opinion of
All engines consume oil. It is a plain matter of physics that each time
a piston travels a full cycle, a minute film of oil is deposited on the
cylinder walls and consumed during a power cycle. The amount may vary
depending on the fit efficiency of the the seal, but some oil is ALWAYS
consumed. It can range from barely noticeable to requiring frequent
Regarding the "1K" bottom line acceptable limits, it's just a standard
established by the manufacturer.
In your case, (you didn't mention the total miles on your car), I would
think it to be a little high. Certainly, I would expect a Honda to
consume more than a quart between scheduled oil changes. YMMV depending
on the engines condition and your driving habits and the oil that you use...
"George C." wrote:
1996 4 Cyl with 173,000 and I add no oil between it's changes (every 7500
miles with full synthetic).
2001 V-6 with 142,000 and I add no oil between it's changes (every 7500
miles with full synthetic).
If I had to add one quart between changes I would not fret. But what you
are describing would disturb me.
Some makes do, but in Hondas it has most often been a sign of the mysterious
oil consumption syndrome - low mileage cars that suddenly start consuming
oil... no leaks, no smoke. In the cases I've heard of where a problem was
found it was a broken piston ring.
you really shouldn't be having to add oil between changes on a car that new.
unless it's been abused badly and something went wrong with it. it may be
hard to get it straightened out with the dealer. they're not going to
rebuild or give you another engine if it's somehow burning the oil unless it
gets to be a major oil loss. i'm wondering if it may be dripping a little
from somewhere. maybe you can park it over a newspaper for awhile and see if
it's leaving big oil spots. it sounds like its using oil like an older honda
might but it should not be doing that.
It's ok. Thanks for all the responses. I've decided I'm going to do
what I said, at first - just add oil, keep my mouth shut, and then if
asked, "Oh, it's never burned a drop!" at trade-in. Then they can do
all the consumption tests they want, and hope I don't get the same
kind of thing next time around. I wish this was the biggest worry in
I forgot to post back here the results of a lengthy oil consumption
None, zero, zip. That's how much oil my 05 Honda had been burning.
Why the low dip stick? Some tech most likely didn't fully top it off.
3000 into prev. oil change, I posted my original message. Had it
topped off, tested again 2000 miles later. Then, sched maint.. 2000
miles into new oil change, no loss (I mean not a drop, AFAICT).
On Sun, 14 May 2006 06:54:32 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (George
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