I love mine, it is an upgrade in features from the EX and gets 45 mpg...my
net cost was far less than the EX when rebates and other tax incentives came
I have driven a LX & received 24 mpg in the city, I regularly get 45 mpg in
my HCHII city, I rarely take it on the freeway as we do not have many
freeways here but when I do I have received 50-58mpg.
My 07 is paid for as well and it is not 25 years old with 25 years of wear
and tear on it.....I replace my car about every 6 years. I am not saying
you have made a wrong choice, just is not MY choice to drive a car that old.
I think hybrids are a great little car, but I don't have one because;
-it currently takes 3-6 mos to get one because of price of gasoline.
-not sure the cost difference is worth it for the little driving I do.
Also wonder how long the battery packs last, and if one fails after 6-8
years, do you replace it? The battery might cost more that the car is worth
at that point.
What does everyone think of the hybrid?
The battery has a substantial warranty on it depending where you live, 8
yrs, 80,000 miles or as much as 150,000. Battery failure is quite uncommon
with some reaching 300,000 miles or more.
Hybrid technology is not that new, Honda has been making hybrids since about
1995, the HCHII is actually 4th generation (Insight, Accord, Civic I & Civic
A battery pack costs about 2000-3000 new, you can obtain them from wrecking
yards and there are start up companies that will referb them by replacing a
failed cell or two.
Consumer reports actually rates the Hybrid slightly more dependable than the
My 1 year old car, at this point is selling for a couple hundred less than I
paid which is quite a profit considering I already took the $2,100 credit on
my taxes which was available at the time I bought it.
They don't destroy any part of Canada that is FUD created before the Hybrid
was even introduced.
Is the wait worth is to save MAYBE 50 % on your gas bill, only your wallet
can say but lets do some numbers.... a 2008 Civic, 24 mpg city 15,000 / 24
b5X $4.25 =$2,656, 15,000/4516. saved.... $1,416 x 6 $8,500 ...the
cost of a Civic EX $20,000, Hybrid $22,600...what is your estimated payback
Some will argue I am using a EX auto not a DX 5 speed, but the EX is the
closest comparison to the Hybrid trim level otherwise you are comparing
Washington apples to granny smiths :-)...but you use what ever comparison
makes you happy, after all, the choice of vehicle is yours not mine or
Some will argue the standard civic gets better than 24 mpg city, it might
some people get 30 mpg, but, some people also get 52 mpg in the Hybrid city
so, apples to apples again we cant compare the highest mileage of one to the
lowest mileage of the other. I have driven both the gas and Hybrid Civic, I
get 24 city in the gas and 45 city in the Hybrid.
Oops, math error, should say, 15,000/4516. $2,656-$141639 saved. 1239
X 6 =7,434 saved over 6 years presuming gas stays @ $4.25 a gallon.
In other words, if you bought the car for $23,000, saved no more than $7,434
and received the current $525 tax credit sold the car in 6 years (with
90,000 miles) for $12,000 (98 Insights are going for $15,000 or so on e bay)
you would have paid $3,041 for 6yr/90,000 miles or about .04 per mile. I
have not included taxes and maintenance in this figure, the HCH is known for
low maintenance brakes for instance are rumored to last 100,000 miles
because of the regen braking & oil can go 6-12k miles since the car
determines when a change is needed....this is of course presuming....gas
does not continue to rise.
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