Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer case place in 4H.
Bearing issues
May 25, 2004
33 Replies
What bearings are bad? Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving? Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of your t case?
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4vLsc.60791$ snipped-for-privacy@fe29.usenetserver.com, but wouldn't let me go...| What bearings are bad? Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt, probably by Rob @
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| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving? No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know what the problem is.
| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of your t case? Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase (has splined output shaft.)
And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
|| || || -- || -- || Joe Pribe || NC || jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com || jegp 'at' hotmail.com || ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
Just drive the jeep, the noise from the bad bearings is only half as annoying as someone criticizing you as you try to help them.
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Joseph P wrote:
I drove for quite a while like that in my CJ7. I was very careful about accelerating with the wheels turned hard, but other than that I run in
4x4 for weeks at a time in the winter. I don't expect damage....Just make sure you don't lose the fluid. I think Jerry B said a WD40 cap will fit right on and a hose clamp holds it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT'sJoseph P wrote:
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Not criticism dude, it is annoyance. You make the assumption that I have no idea what I am talking about. Instead of answering my question, you bring question my decision to pull the rear drive shaft. All I wanted to know about was driving by utilizing the front end only. And you still haven't answered that.
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You don't find the readability in better. Maybe you don't spend enough time on usenet to care...that's fine...as much as Bill posts though, I wish he would do it "properly." Of course, I am not twisting anyone's arm here, am I?
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| I drove for quite a while like that in my CJ7. I was very | careful about accelerating with the wheels turned hard, but | other than that I run in 4x4 for weeks at a time in the | winter. I don't expect damage.... | | Just make sure you don't lose the fluid. I think Jerry B said | a WD40 cap will fit right on and a hose clamp holds it.... | | Mike | 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 | 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's | | Joseph P wrote: || || Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only || vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how || long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear propeller || shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer case place || in 4H. || || -- || -- || Joe Pribe || NC || jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com || jegp 'at' hotmail.com || ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts aside, I am not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking something. Or, by telling me I should be losing fluid, you are really telling me I need a CJ. ;)
well, I thing the etiquette is stronger for bottom posters to trim the messages they are replying to. nothing worse than scrolling down pages of old messages to see a one line reply.
Top posters can get away without trimming but should keep doing it. anyone that's interested in the thread can google it I say!
The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out, but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.
What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.
You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the slip yoke design:
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Steve
Joseph P wrote:
Some of us use news readers that let us see the entire thread at once and read the previous comments in logical rather than chronological order. So unless the news feed is hose up (fairly normal unfortenately), there is no real need to leave ANY of the previous text in place.
And some of us have been reading NG's so long that we remember when going from 14.4 to 28.8 meant you did not have to be so fussy on what you snipped off.
And your po> I was trying to save myself from MRTsc.69$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net,
Some t-cases will piss out the fluid when you remove the driveshaft.
My CJ for instance has a yoke on the t-case. Some t-cases are wide open and will empty themselves fast if the hole isn't covered and some others with some spline ends can pour it out if tipped or when running. The bad driveshaft sometimes takes out the t-case seal as it vibrates itself apart, that's wrong, 'most' of the time it does this at the same time destroying the pinion seal.
Just a heads up to watch the fluids.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT'sI was trying to save myself from uc1tc.9$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uswest.net, but wouldn't let me go...
| Some of us use news readers that let us see the entire thread | at once and read the previous comments in logical rather than | chronological order. So unless the news feed is hose up (fairly | normal unfortenately), there is no real need to leave ANY of | the previous text in place. | | And some of us have been reading NG's so long that we remember | when going from 14.4 to 28.8 meant you did not have to be so | fussy on what you snipped off. | | And your point is?
Gosh, 14.4K modem, huh. Where were you when 1200 bits a second was fast?
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Joseph P wrote:
I was trying to save myself from snipped-for-privacy@sympatico.ca, but wouldn't let me go...
| Joseph P wrote: || || I was trying to save myself from || snipped-for-privacy@sympatico.ca, || but wouldn't let me go... || ||| I drove for quite a while like that in my CJ7. I was very ||| careful about accelerating with the wheels turned hard, but ||| other than that I run in 4x4 for weeks at a time in the ||| winter. I don't expect damage.... ||| ||| Just make sure you don't lose the fluid. I think Jerry B ||| said a WD40 cap will fit right on and a hose clamp holds ||| it.... ||| ||| Mike ||| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 ||| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's ||| ||| Joseph P wrote: |||| |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer |||| case place in 4H. |||| |||| -- |||| -- |||| Joe Pribe |||| NC |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ || || Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts || aside, I am not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking || something. Or, by telling me I should be losing fluid, you || are really telling me I need a CJ. ;) || || -- | | Some t-cases will piss out the fluid when you remove the | driveshaft. | | My CJ for instance has a yoke on the t-case. Some t-cases are | wide open and will empty themselves fast if the hole isn't | covered and some others with some spline ends can pour it out | if tipped or when running. The bad driveshaft sometimes takes | out the t-case seal as it vibrates itself apart, that's wrong, | 'most' of the time it does this at the same time destroying | the pinion seal. | | Just a heads up to watch the fluids. | | Mike | 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 | 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I have a splined output shaft from the Tcase, I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon.
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| As Steve said, when the yoke is out, there is nothing to keep | the transfer case from draining out. Park facing up on a hill | and you will drain the entire transfer case. Use the pop can | and hose clamp trick. | | Joseph P wrote: | || I was trying to save myself from || snipped-for-privacy@sympatico.ca, || but wouldn't let me go... || ||| I drove for quite a while like that in my CJ7. I was very ||| careful about accelerating with the wheels turned hard, but ||| other than that I run in 4x4 for weeks at a time in the ||| winter. I don't expect damage.... ||| ||| Just make sure you don't lose the fluid. I think Jerry B ||| said a WD40 cap will fit right on and a hose clamp holds ||| it.... ||| ||| Mike ||| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 ||| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's ||| ||| Joseph P wrote: |||| |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer |||| case place in 4H. |||| |||| -- |||| -- |||| Joe Pribe |||| NC |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ || || Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts || aside, I am not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking || something. Or, by telling me I should be losing fluid, you || are really telling me I need a CJ. ;)
Where again will the fluid come out? The middle of the output shaft, or what? I had no fluid come out, nor will the output move.
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