The cheap tin bumdpers do little to protect anything especially when you may need protection. We were off road in WV and one of us slid into a tree at low speed. The OEM bumper folded and did over $3100 damage. Another one of us had a rock crawing bumper and hit the same tree with no damage except for some paint scratches. So what you are saying all rock crawling bumpers which are of simular stature as my home made bumpers are bad? All my years of off roading I have never seen a bent frame due to an impact because of heavy duty bumpers. I have seen several bent frames due to roll overs. Thoughts?