Close Call!

Succession sounds like a good idea. I do not think Washington would object to the creation of another conservative state.

You miss a key parameter here, Earle. 4WD provides 4 traction points for "go", it does squat all for "whoa" - the brakes provide 4 wheel energy for that little detail. All the 4WD does is to help transfer whatever resistance it can find to the engine. Allowing any wheel or wheels to roll means that the rolling wheel has the potential to supply at least SOME traction available to either slow or steer that

That's all well and good for theory but like you, I doubt the average driver, or even the highly skilled > Mike, I am a physicist (well I used to be) but I will be the first to admit

I will agree. I have been in situations where all that would work was the hand brake and 'really' slow so I still had steering while having the door open so I could jump.....

Mike

Stimpy wrote:

Heh, according to the statistics people, jumping is the last, most fatal option. That is why seat belts are installed in motor vehicles--to keep the people in the car. That said, sometimes it works.

Earle

If I am sliding at 1/2 mile an hour toward that cliff and it just isn't going to pull out, well..... Going over wasn't a survivable option.

Screw the seat belt, I have the door open... Only ever had to do that twice, both times in the Canadian Rockies and both in the last 2wd truck we owned before the Jeep.... That convinced us we needed a real 4x4 to get out where we like to explore.

Mike

Whomever your teacher was never drove on ice very much. And no, engine braking is a plot spread by the body shop and tow truck mafia to lure the inexperienced.

I'd guess it is theoretically true with the odds of being able to match instantaneous engine speed to the slip speed being roughly equal to those of being able to flap your arms enough to lift the vehicle into the air to recover.

Earle Horton proclaimed:

Good thing to do for anyone wanting to drive on ice and snow that also desires wrinkle free fenders. Parking lots work as long as they don't have any curbs or posts. Both beat high speed skidpad training where a mistake tends to have somewhat more awe inspiring consequences.

Earle Horton proclaimed:

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