new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler

It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90 degrees.

I thought the 3.3/3.8 60 degree V6 was dead.

Too bad you cant get the Benz V6....the one Centurion Thielert uses....

Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

Jeff DeWitt

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:

Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.

Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.

Maybe so. but "fairly good power" doesn't a Jeep engine make!

Jeff DeWitt

DougW wrote:

LOL! Really. I know the reasons for the demise of the I-6, but still, you would think they would switch over to a long-standing, well-developed, durable truck engine design as a replacement instead of something out of a FWD Mommy-Van.

I just got the 'press release' packet in the mail with loads of information about the '07 Wrangler. I now need a vomit bag. It's hideous. An interior like a PT Cruiser, and exterior like a Hummer, and a nice, new drivetrain that has no off-road history at all. And I'm sure it will take 10 years to work the bugs out of this thing as well, as sales languish. Bleh. This is progress?

All I can say is, THANK GOD I bought my '05 TJ Unlimited when I did!!!

Actually I try NOT to notice mini vans

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III wrote:

Have you noticed how many soccer-mom minivans were traded in for Hummers?

We had a Chrysler Town and Country with the 3.8, it could get out of its own way OK. But that was several years ago.

To me, the 4-door Unlimited all-too-closely resembles a minivan in the first place. I wouldn't have dropped the 4.0 from the line for anything, but if I'd had to I probably would have chosen the 3.8 as its replacement. My stepdad drives a Grand Caravan with that engine and it's a lot more powerful than one would expect. I think it provides a good medium between aggressive off-roading and the daily commute, which I think it was Jeep was going for in the new line.

Agreed. We have an 05 GC with the 3.8 and it gets good mileage and has enough power. We towed our 2000lb pop-up over the Rockies this summer with it and I was impressed.

Now, I wouldn't trade the 4.0L in my 98TJ for the 3.8, but if I was in the market for the '07 four door I'd want a V6 and automatic. I long ago got tired of shifting my 5sp everyday. Maybe that's part of the reason the TJ sits in the garage most days and I commute with a 97 GC.

mc

I thought the Grand Cherokees came with the 3.7L engine.

Tom

Sorry. In this case GC = Grand Caravan

The Grand Cherokee does not use the 3.8L V6.

mc

C'mon, Bill Hughes, say it!

Real Jeeps have 72 horsepower four-cylinder engines. Nothing else is a Real Jeep, and that 4.0 liter six-cylinder monstrosity is NOTHING like a Real Jeep engine. Heck, Real Jeeps don't even use "liters," it's a 134 cubic inch motor. ;)

Hey BILL! You know real Jeeps are built not bought. Good to be back again BTW Rich Harris