OT BioDiesel

Maybe he means Argonne radiation. He tends to confuse the trivial ability to google for keywords with actually being able to use those keywords properly in a sentence.

jeff proclaimed:

jeff

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III wrote:

Yeah, except that burning coal doesn't transmute elements.

Earle Horton proclaimed:

You might want to read some of those links you post so quickly with no comprehension.

"Radon has a half-life of only 3.8 days; consequently, most of the gas decays harmlessly in the ground or atmosphere."

So if it WERE to magically appear in coal beds and somehow be absorbed into the coal [neither of which is the case, but you'd need to be able to read some of the rest of that page to see why not.] a coal burning plant would be releasing this non-existent radon into the air where it would dissipate. Except of course that storing the coal for a few days would also get rid of this magical non-existent radon since there is very little thorium, uranium, etc. in commercial coal.

You want radon, go to Grand Junction Colorado where the difference between the entire housing development built on uranium mine tailings and the natural radioactivity of the ground under most of the city is quite tiny unless you have an axe to grind and presume your audience is ignorant.

If you want high enough concentrations of radon that the decay results in enough helium to raise your voice, next time you are in Moab, see if any locals can tell you how to find the old Fowler mine up behind the slick rock behind the old city dump.

Coal fired plants have radioactive emissions, but radon ain't one of them. Particularly compared to the more dangerous radioactives that your body will absorb and imbed quite readily.

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III proclaimed:

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---snippy--- In Grand Junction, in fact anywhere in Colorado it would be quite natural to presume so. ;^)

Earle

Sources that mention radon as a by-product of burning coal. This is only from the first page of MSN search.

Official U. S. Environmental Protection Agency radon site.

No, burning coal doesn't transmute elements, but it can release radon into the air. If you cook and heat your home with coal, like many of my neighbors, then this can be a problem.

Earle

I thought that was Techron?

"Earle Horton" wrote in

Second that. Many folks too poor to call yuppies heat with wood and even though Oak and other hardwoods are plentiful thanks to the hurricanes we loose a couple homes a year to chimney fires. Clean and inspect at least annually.

Yep. Thank god it wasn't orgone radiation. BTW, I worked on a 10M test bench for setting the wigglers for them (Argonne). That was one massive granite beam, 1' wide, 3.5' high and over 30' long. Bet it emitted some radon.

Spring time is the worst for chimney fires. Warm enough that you don't need much of a fire so you never get a good bank of coals, and have to damp it back.

This stuff isn't quite free, unless the electricity for the pump and/or compressor is also free. I must admit that I am intrigued that it can be made to work in rural Montana. I don't think it would work where I live though. We are too high, the town sits on a gravel bank, and no one has located geothermal sources in the entire county. Although grant parasites have siphoned off some government funds looking.

Earle

jeff proclaimed:

Radon largely comes from [deposits of the] heavier radioactive metals, as it really does have a half live of only a few days so unless you have a continual source of it, you don't have radon for long. One problem is that it can come from rather deep down and seep up thru rock cracks into basements, old mines, etc. Folks used to think the old Fowler Mine near Moab was haunted because it had enough radioactivity to cause burns on folks who tried to work it.

Grumman-581 proclaimed:

Swamp coolers work pretty nicely in high desert where the normal humidity is under 10% most of the time. They help keep the dry air from turning skin into leather. Best to have a small regular unit for the 2 or 3 rare days where a rain does not cool down the area enough tho.

Grumman-581 proclaimed:

If you build it, yeah. Typically it comes with the house. Good fire brick works, but you have to make sure to use a good mortar that doesn't weaken if the interior of the chimney starts glowing at several hundred degrees. Arguments rage over whether it is easier to clean one that has an inner metal chimney or not.

Herb Leong proclaimed:

Forced air and unseasoned evergreen woods don't work too bad. Trick is heating the fumes from the flame to ignition temperature with enough oxygen to burn most of the volatiles off. Worst were those old in chimney radiator units that tried to pull extra heat out of the smoke... they worked, increasing the condensation of the gunk way low down where if it did ignite it was probably inside your house. Much easier to just build the chimney out of fire brick...you could hear the chimney fire but the outside of the chimney would remain cool to the touch. You get tempted to just let it go, but it can spew burning chunks all over the area, which isn't good around most places where you have wooden out buildings or evergreen trees.

Think that was the case in a couple of the towns along old highway 6 in that area. Towns populated mostly by unwanted newly arrived kalifornicators.

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III proclaimed:

I used to own one. The system is costly upfront; it's a complex system.

Then the ground loop sprung a leak, and the cost to dig up the yard and repair it wiped out 10 or 20 years of savings.