OT BioDiesel

May 08, 2006 129 Replies

Mine wasn't a ground loop... It just pumped water out of the 1100 ft well and used that as a heat transfer mechanism for the heat pump instead of air blowing across it like a normal outside unit would have... The water was fed into some PVC pipe with some sprinkler heads on it... I could tell when the system was running while I was outside by whether the sprinklers were working... If both units were running, the sprinklers were flowing even more water... It was a pretty simple system...

The problem with most kalifornicators in general is that they don't want to or don't know how to go native. First thing that happens when someone moves in to a rural area is that they wonder why the garbage service did not pick up their crap. The idea of a "dump run" is just not even conceivable... Next thing you know, they've turned what was once a nice place to live into f'ing LA.

/herb

In article , Lon wrote: #Think that was the case in a couple of the towns along old highway 6 in #that area. Towns populated mostly by unwanted newly arrived #kalifornicators. # #L.W.(Bill) Hughes III proclaimed: # #> I remember it was against the law to burn wood in your own #> fireplace in Aspen, beginning in the early sixties, a friend that lives #> there told me. #> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O #> mailto: snipped-for-privacy@aol.com

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> #> Herb Leong wrote: #> #>>That reminds me, several of my in-laws have catalytic converters #>>in their fireplace chimneys. You pull out a bypass rod until the #>>fire is hot enough and then push it back in when the temp sensing #>>fan starts up. The smoke goes to zilch. I wonder how well it #>>would work with unseasoned wood. #>>

#>>/herb

Somebody say "dump run"? Coincidentally today's the day :-)

no, i mean the heat source itself is free. there is no gas to burn, or coils to get hot. its an amazing system. HVAC/R is truly a "pay me now, or pay me a lot more later" business and there is no way around it. if you bite the bullet and pay up front for a ground source it will pay for itself over and over again.

it works quite well and with electric or gas suppliment it will keep you toasty or cool in the harshest montana weather.

Sorry, Nathan, but I think that you have no idea how the geothermal heat pumps that I had in my previous house actually work... Think of a regular heat pump that instead of allowing the heat to be transferred by a fan on the outside unit, instead the heat is transferred by a source of water moving through the system... It's more efficient than a normal unit in air-conditioning mode, but not *tremendously*... As far as heating goes, I doubt that it is more efficient than heating via natural gas...

i own an HVAC/R company

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and i install/service ground source heat pumps regularly. although we're able to service any type, we specialize in water furnace brand. now i havent read all the messages in this thread, so please explain how your system differs from a vertical/horizontal ground loop system.

you must really have an odd type of system. besides, have you priced natural gas lately? ive serviced systems that were 40 miles away from their closest neighbor, much less a propane company. their savings by using ground source with electric backup are even more substantial.

Nathan, what kind of electricity do you have in Montana? Safe and clean hydroelectric, or safe and clean coal-fired?

Earle

wind, gas, hydro, and coal.

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You are SO full of s*it.

I'm not at all surprised.

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