Out of 4wd Hard

Oct 02, 2003 63 Replies

That was always how I looked at it. If you hear a loud clunk, if it's hard to get out of 4wd, you've had some bind.

Before my Cherokee, I had a (cough) Geo Tracker. Yea, the small one. Not as bad as you may think.,.lol

That thing was light enough where the tires would scrub a little if you were in 4wd and went from slippery to dry. So I'd leave it in during those conditions.

With the Cherokee, I wouldn't do that. The weight is so much more that I don't think there'd be ANY scrub.

Come to think of it, my t-case needs a little use these days also. Winter's on the way, and I haven't used 4wd in a good while..

Isn't 4WD High meant for higher speed wet pavement or snow?

Wet pavement is iffy for 4x4. Some of it is slick, some is sticky.

If it is really pissing down and you are on greasy city streets, then...

Otherwise, yes, 4 high is for normal speeds on slick roads and I have no issues driving over 60 mph in 4 high on both of my Jeeps.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe wrote:

I also have a CJ but have not been doing this, maybe I should start. What does it achieve to lock the hubs but not shift into 4wd? Why wouldn't you want to lock them in and go all the way into 4wd?

Locking the hubs gets all the front end parts including the driveshaft spinning which splashes oil around to lube everything.

This also moves grease around in all the front end u-joints too so they don't rust in place.

Don't need 4x4 mode on the CJ to do this, just the hubs locked.

Mike

Joshua Nels>

I've never had an accident with my AWD car :-) I did wreck an 87 Wrangler (one week after paying it off)... gotta find those pictures.

Bill:

Better "knock on wood," now that you have said that.

Tom

Real Jeeps don't have wood....

Approximately 10/3/03 11:19, mabar uttered for posterity:

Bill, there is a list floating around of what it means to be Canadian, something like our RAMJ+W T-shirts 'you know it is a real Jeep' have.

One of the items is 'when your grandparents or parents drive at 65 mph on the highway in a snowstorm without even batting an eye.'

LOL! That is 'so' true too....

When I lived out west, the nearest city to go shopping was 200 miles away. We never saw pavement from freeze up until thaw, when 8" to 12" deep pot holes in the ice that had been scraped all winter would start showing. They were hell on springs and tires. When you see a caution about a bump or hole, you 'really' pay attention. Frost heaves would make a 1' or higher flat wall across the road that the road crews would have to fill one side of before anything other than a Jeep or a tank could cross them...

I drove rear wheel cars then, 2 with 350's and one 460 ci Coronet. I always went the speed of the professional drivers in the transport trucks which was usually right around 62 to 65 mph.

I still do for that matter. I watch the truckers, they always know the safe speed for conditions. If it's bad and I see 'no' truckers out, I get off too or slow right down to a crawl.

The only concession I made was to disable the damn mechanical tranny kick down lever. Nothing worse than pulling out to pass at 40- 60 mph and having that V8 kick down a gear and put you sideways before you can blink.

The Jeeps in 4x4 are 'sooo' much better! If I had of owned a Jeep back then, it would have been in 4x4 for 6 months of the year.

You just get used to it. I mean you 'sure' don't even come close to tailgating because the snow vortex will give you 0 visibility right behind something and have to plan a pass from way back for one long clear stretch so you can be out and 'stable' in the other lane before you even come close to the vehicle you want to pass and worry about the front on dead spot in visibility for that second or two, etc... I too have never had an accident on road that was my fault in 30 years of driving. Knocking on wood....

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:

Was this part of the original morgan-style bodywork, or something you added?

Approximately 10/3/03 11:44, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III uttered for posterity:

Which is why real Jeeps rusted so bad at the body mounts and the tire carrier!

For sure!

My tub is a 2 layer tub with 1" waterproof plywood sandwiched in-between the floor layers. It has diamond plate sandwiched in the firewall.

I had to take back all the high grade stainless bolts I bought for bolting anything to the floor or even to the back top wheel well flats, I thought it would be an inch and 3/4's, but the glass was way thicker than 3/8 per layer so 2.5" extra just fit with a washer. I even had to suck some stuff down first, then back it off and add the thin stainless washer after.

I was/still am impressed.

The gent that made my tub here in Ontario Canada did a sweet job in my opinion. I have even flipped it doing 20 mph in snow and only cracked the glued seam where the firewall meets the floor pan.

I did knock it almost a 1/2" sideways on the mounts though. That only took a 1/2 hour and my big tree in my driveway with a come a long winch on the roll bar to fix... :-)

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:

Rust is sorta reddish. Perhaps you are mistaking termite poop....

Shades of the Morgans.

Approximately 10/3/03 12:16, Gerald G. McGeorge uttered for posterity:

The definition of fear for a Morgan owner is to be flat out on a twisty road and see a termite crawling along the dashboard. (Flat out would be about 50 mph.)

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