Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!

Jul 03, 2004 42 Replies

This needs to be posted every once in a while.



ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only want to be s*it disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if enough complaints are laid.



For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole process including the votes can be viewed here:



ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys



Here is the Charter text quoted:



RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys



The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to discuss topics specifically to Jeep and Willys vehicles.



At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125 articles daily.



It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.



CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys



The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys is to be used for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions about Jeep (Trade Mark) and Willys vehicles. It also serves as a medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling parts by non-commercial vendors.



Some things that could be discussed....



-Jeep/Willys history -repairs and modifications -parts exchange -technical information -4x4 driving experiences -vehicle restoration -new vehicle evaluations



Some things that shouldn't be discussed....



-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers -commercial posts



The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet but not vise versa.



END CHARTER.



End quote.



Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.



Mike



86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

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Jeep did make a diesel CJ in the 70's for non-North American markets, and the Liberty will get a TDI.

ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.autos.makers.jeep+wi llys

And the XJ had a diesel... and the GC.

Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

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Hi Bill,

Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market. The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.

Steve

L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:

Bill, I don't know where it originally came from but when I was looking for a tranny for the MJ I ran across a guy in Amarillo with an

87 XJ that has a diesel in it - AIR he said it was the Renault POS and a true gutless wonder - but we thought the tranny would work. Turned out, it sat in front of an AX-5 which wouldn't stand up to my 4.0 so we dr> An 85 Cherokee with a Renault Diesel made for the Canadian market,

XJ also had an italian VM diesel.

Bill: You should read the second and third paragraph of your posted URL again carefully re the availability in the USA. Bob

Bill; Hardly! My point was that when the line was "revamped" the diesel was dropped from the US availability. If it was never available - how did they drop it? Secondly the preceeding paragraph you quoted says "MOST of the diesels were sold in Europe and Canada". Where did the rest go? Couple that with the statement about dropping it from the USA availability and I don't find it strange that you could find some running around the USA. Bob

Don't take that link as gospel. It says the 1987 4.0L had TBI, which isn't true. All 4.0L engines are MPI.

Except for the Mopar Turbocharged 2.2L, which was port injected. I owned one of these in an 87 Shelby Charger, and at the time it was fun beating up on the IROC and TA's after a few simple mods to up the turbo boost.

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Chris

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