stock engine and large tires

So I guess the 3 million Wranglers with 31 inch tires are all wrong! With a

2-3 inch body lift, you can easily fit 33 inch tires. The Dana 35 and 30 can easily handle the added height and weight. Again you show your ignorance Bill.

Do you honestly believe some of the crap you feed these people on this newsgroup?

The Dana 35 may not handle a 35 inch tire, but then again, which manufacturer are you talking about. Just because a tire manufacturer calls their tire a 35 inch doesn't mean the actual tire height is as advertised. But I guess you knew that didn't ya Bill?

Troy, look for a good Jeep related web page. Search around. You will see that until you get to the 35 inch tire, the only factor limiting the tire size on a Jeep Wrangler is the Fender opening. I don't recommend a body lift for many reasons, but if that's what you want, then go for it. Like I said earlier, I know of many Wranglers with 31-33 inch tires on stock differentials. I have 31 inch tires on my daughters Wrangler (Pro Comp X-Terrains) which measure a true 31 inches.

Good Luck Troy

Be careful who you get your information from. Make sure they know more then "I'm waiting". Jim Smith

Now Bill, you should have prefaced your answer with a "IMHO". Yes, you have pictures to show why it may not be a good idea. Nonetheless, I contend that you can run up to at least 33X12.5 tires on a 4" lifted Wrangler equipped with a 4.0L and Dana 35 axle provided the vehicle is appropriately geared for the larger tire (4.11-4.56) and the driver handles the rig on the trail with care. My evidence is that I've had 33X12.5 tires on my 91YJ since new and have yet to break an axle. This is with the stock driveline and a 4" lift. IMHO, I believe that the preponderance of broken 35 axles were the result of driver error and not the fault of the equipment. Slow and deliberate with a front locker and rear LS seem to be the best combination. I fear that most of the broken 35s we've seen are the result of a rearend install of a full locker and, or the driver trying to do something more than his rig was capable of. MY YJ does its share of 3-4 plus rated trails in rocks, mud and sand and has yet to bust an axle.

Jus my two pennys. Scott

91YJ 2000 F-150 4x4

Hmm, I mean if I was wanting to go for, say 44 inch boggers on my TJ like I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.

Troy

I always do. If I ever break something I'll take you a picture.

Scott

91YJ

Wow that was the exact jeep I was looking at when I thought this up. It has a chevy 350 in it though, for the bigger tires. I was wondering if I did have rockwells and proper gearing and all, would the 190hp 232lb-ft torque (or close to that) power of the i6 be able to turn those 44's down the highway at 65mph? If not would it at least give me enough power for muddin?

My jeep already has a 4 inch lift w/33's and 4.56 gears and lockers, etc. I was gonna put all that on my gf's jeep when it's paid for and upgrade my own, muahaha. I only have 55000 miles on the i6 in it now, and it's going strong so I dont wanna get rid of it until its dying day.

Troy

my stock 35 has been good with 35's and 456 ggears

IMHO...;) I don't have 44' tires or a D35 but here's my take. The I6's a nice, torquey motor and you can cure just about anything with RPM's (the I6 doesn't have) & gears. But, larger tires put exponentially more stress on the axle and there's nothing you can do about that. 44's are huge and D35's are... arguably not the strongest axle in the pile. When you factor in the need for limited slip vs. a true locker and smooth wheeling ability, I'd just recommend going with a stronger axle. If the 35's questionable enough to argue about here, why throw cash at a questionable design. I've put a lot into my Dana20 and it's fairly bulletproof (minus less than optimal tubes). If I had the money in a lump, I would've gone with an axle swap like I'm gonna do after all the investment in the 20. It seems nobody says, "I want to swap a Dana 35 INTO my Jeep." As for the motor, I stuck with my I6 for ten years; great motor that's good for

200,000+ well-maintained miles. I finally went with V8 inches and love it; incomparable power, torque and 5+ mpg better. Good Luck and Best Regards, Drink P.S. 2cents adjusted for inflation, contents may settle (IMHO;)

But wait Troy. Bill says you can only go as large as 30 inch tires on a stock Dana35. How many Dana35's have you broken by putting tires on the Wrangler that Bill says is too tall?

Inquiring Minds Need To Know! Jim Smith

I do real off road not sand like your pics ;)

Oh, does little Billy play in a sand box? Lets see if he is going to get his tires wet this time out. Wonder if he's ever been on top of a rock pile or in 2 feet of mud between 2 oak trees? Probably not!

Jim Smith

That girl behind you was definitely the inspiration for Munch's "The Scream"

Dave Milne, Scotland