What does everyone think is the best engine to go for, a 200TDi or 300TDi (I doubt my budget will stretch to a TD5). I had assumed the 300 but there seem to be a lot of reliability problems being reported here so is the 200 a better bet and is there much in it regarding fuel economy?.
Greg
On or around Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:46:12 +0100, "Greg" enlightened us thusly:
if anything, the 200 might be a fraction more economical.
the 200 is a bit more agricultural-sounding - but I reckon most of that's the extra sound-deadening on the 300 series...
The only things specific to the 300 which are more hassle ridden are the serpentine belt tensioner and the cambelt. The one is cured quite simply by replacing it and the other is cured by fitting the appropriate cambelt kit if needed.
I don't think either of them are more prone than the other to head gaskets going, TBH.
A 200 or 300 Tdi will do the business, the 300 having a bit more top end if you are going long distance. There's no major problems with the 300Tdi [1] (any mods have either been done by now or don't need doing) - but *never* allow a 300Tdi to overheat (or any "modern" engine for that matter).
[1] actually, the vacuum pumps are a bit of pain, but fitting a new one seems to be a relatively premanent fix.Richard
Greg uttered summat worrerz funny about:
Mostly we chat in here about broken stuff so it's not a good benchmark. For example there are few posts about Freelanders which despite there early reputation should actually be a good thing. Also relatively few posts about front Diffs being naughty on 101's but in the last month theres been a bit of a glut so to the casual observer they would appear to be an "issue" IYSWIM.
Lee D
You're right there Austin I put my money where my mouth is and invested in the rubber rocker box ( chest for US chums) cover and did the dirty with Heat proof on the manifold makes a big difference. Derek Kato 200TDi Disco
Am I right in thinking that the 300 has an ECU whereas the 200 is a mechanical pump, and doesn't an ECU mean more problems of an expensive nature that mere mortals can't fix?
Greg
It depends on which 300Tdi - the later Discovery I one's had an ECU, earlier ones had an EGR ECU, and earlier still had a mechanical EGR, i.e. no ECU (infact no EGR as such).
Richard
Now I am confused!, so the 300TDI is not one engine but a range of engines from a mechanical pump to a full ECU, how the heck are you supposed to know what you're buying when adverts just say 300TDi?.
Greg
That's a fair point! In reality though, any electronics can be done away with when installing (not a bad idea in itself) as the engine itself remains the same, you might just end up with a reduandant sensor or two. Removing the EGR system is quite a popular thing to do anyway.
Richard
On or around Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:24:08 +0100, beamendsltd enlightened us thusly:
the full EDC is only on late-model diesel autos, I thought.
There are part numbers for Defender, not that I've ever seen one, so it may be for specific markets (Germany/Switzerland spring to mind).
Richard
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