Breakdown of the Day (BOTD)

|| || What sort of trade-in value do you think I'd get on a second hand || Disco TD5? :) || || David ||

Don't do it! I traded the other way (Disco Td5 to P38a) and haven't regretted it one bit. Mind you, my Rangie isn't playing silly buggers like yours is ;-) Hope you get it sorted.

On or around Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:34:17 -0000, "David French" enlightened us thusly:

lack of oil in the 'box can cause lack of go in the vehicle.

Got a 4.6 Disco you *cant have*

Seriously....it's not that bad....if you had no ATF...then blammo - no drive.

Neil

David> They've checked it out and there are 2 problems. A David> "sliver" of metal in the drive plate (about the size of a David> 5p, I think they said) and a marked lack of oil in the David> gearbox apparently due to the oil sump plug being loose. David> This last one is a bit odd as it was overful a few weeks David> back and I've not noticed any on the drive - more about David> this later. But the gearbox isn't damaged, they think, David> which is just as well.

The sliver of metal could well have been left behind after the previous drive plate self-destructed.

David> What sort of trade-in value do you think I'd get on a David> second hand Disco TD5? :)

Don't do it. You know you'll regret it.

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Blimey, after all those problems, no wonder you're starting to lose faith! Go on David, trade it in! Get yourself a smart, late "300tdi" Disco 'cause the Td5 has elecronics to go wrong too. Get back to simple motoring, fiddling about underneath the thing and taking it off road from time to time. You'll never look back. Seems a shame to have learnt a lot about a "real" disco and then move on to a mobile piece of computer hardware that is not proving too reliable.

Guy (being devil's advocate)

The trouble is, having seen my brother-in-law's Disco TD5 (which is currently in the dealer to have a new head gasket), I do quite like the TD5 over the 300Tdi - it's more roomy, it drives better, it looks quite nice too. So I think I'd probably end up moving to a TD5 if I went there at all, but your point about the complexity is of course totally valid... so I'm still no nearer a solution...

What I really need is to keep the P38a for work use and get a 300Tdi to take to Iceland and use when the P38's being repaired. But I don't think that will happen :)

David

David> What I really need is to keep the P38a for work use and get David> a 300Tdi to take to Iceland and use when the P38's being David> repaired. But I don't think that will happen :)

I have to say, I've been saying I'd do this for a couple of years now, but there always seems to be something more important to spend some money on than a second car.

AndyC

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I didn't realise there would be such a difference between a 300tdi and a TD5? (don't know my Discos) Do the later 300tdi's not look similar (inside and out)to an early TD5? Or are you looking to get one of the very new ones with the new RaRo style headlights that cost £££s!!

It comes down to either having one work car and one play car (plus a large salary) or having a compromise, that's quite a bit of fun and also smart enough for work. Do you really *need* a RaRo for work and do you need a 2" lift and all that under-body protection for a bit of fun? A smart 300tdi could get you to and around Iceland and be the mobile sofa you need for work. But then, what do I know!

Guy

I'm no expert on Discos post-94 either, but if I'm getting this right, the TD5 was introduced with the Disco 2, which became longer, heavier and bulkier. The extra length mainly goes on the back, to accommodate forward-facing loadspace seats. This gives quite a bit of overhang though.

The overall look is quite different than a 300Tdi, partly due to the wheel arch eyebrows which get quite prominent, and partly due to the whole thing looking a bit bigger and meatier. They also added things like optional rear air suspension (doh), Active Cornering Enhancement, etc. I'd quite like ACE but I think I'd give the EAS a wide berth.

Don't *need* a RaRo, but it's pretty unbeatable on the motorways, and I do tend to do quite high mileage. It's quieter, smoother and more powerful than a Disco TD5. But it wouldn't exactly be a hardship to use a Disco instead. A 110 might be pushing it though.

As regards the 2" lift, it would be hard to resist!

David

I didn`t know there was any real difference between the 300 and td5 either other than the new headlights and trim.

well hows about a nice compromise. Get a clean low mileage 300tdi disco - fit a decent set of aftermarket springs/dampers/arb`s to improve the road handling, upgrade the light clusters to td5 spec, buy some inconspicious protection plates (you could even plasticoat them black to make them virtually invisible if you wanted) and then buy a second set of tyres for offroad playing. that way you`ll have a decent reliable engine, a nice handling motor for cruising the motorways, totally modern disco looks and still have the ability to play offroad! If I had the money to buy a good disco 300tdi I`d definitely go that route! Definitely the best of both worlds.

Nick C ps, slightly off topic - but i wonder how many landies fitted with td5`s will be converted to the 2.8 powerstroke or standard 300tdi engines once the td5 unit goes pop outside of warranty?

I don't think the Powerstroke is legal in cars of TD5 age because of the emissions. You can only fit it into older vehicles, IIRC.

On or around Tue, 3 Feb 2004 10:41:53 -0000, "David French" enlightened us thusly:

if you want roomy you need to wait for the new disco, with it's extra 340mm of wheelbase, bigger doors, etc.

So, will this new disco be almost as roomy as a 110? Incidently, how does the 110 compare to the disco for hurtling up and down motorways?

Not great. The 110 is a bit "Utilitarian" and not really set up for road driving. The Disco is great for motorway munching. I should know - I put

1800 miles a week on one for 2 years.

P.

Horses for courses - I love my 110 on the motorway - 177,000 miles in 7 years, but I do appreciate it may not be to everyone's liking (sorry chaps, but I don't like driving Disco's - just a personal thing)

Richard

On or around Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:52:56 -0000, "David French" enlightened us thusly:

so buy a 300 TDi and put the powerstroke in it :-)

hmmm. they're still supplying 300 TDis to the military. do the army buy discos?

On or around Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:22:01 -0000, Keith Barrett enlightened us thusly:

Mine's OK. But it has got ford seats, a RR 4-speed auto and a RR V8 in it.

not much cop with a standard 2.5 diesel.

I'd guess a TD5 would be fine, though I'd tend to hunt better seats - fitting the ford seats from an XR4x4 to mine made the world of difference to it.