disco turning circle / offset wheels

I have started to trial my disco1 (sorry austin) and am trying to find out some facts about offset wheels to give a reduced turning circle radius. I've spent an age on the net and the phone today and the only fact I have is that one supplier does a rim with 12mm offset. I'm not sure why this info is so hard to find, but does anybody in here know how much offset to expect? I'm on 235/70R16 tyres btw. One of the guys in my LR club said his were around an inch offset, but I won't see him until the next event by which time I was hoping to be "tooled up" :-)) Cheers Graham

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Graham Bowers
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Most of the modulars, eight-spokes etc are 1" offeset.

Richard

Reply to
beamendsltd

Thanks Richard. Is that one inch more than the standard LR steel wheels please? I suppose I should pull a wheel off and measure up a std wheel. Oh, and do you "do" them? Cheers Graham

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Graham Bowers

It is - LR "standard" ones that is.

'Fraid not, you can get them from most of the on-line wheel and tyre places very cheaply usually, though persuading them you don't want a set of tyres at the same time can be hard work.

Richard

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beamendsltd

This sounds interesting to me, too. Is it possible to reduce the turning radius only by changing wheels? Abutoma

Reply to
user

Can't see how, you'd have to change the steering max angle too shirley? A higher offset wheel might allow that (higher as in making the wheel further from the chassis rails).

Reply to
Ian Rawlings

Hmm, just tried my local LR bits shop (15 miles). Yes, he had them in stock but wasn't sure of the offset so I went over armed with measuring sticks and they were 30mm more than the originals. Game on! I'll have two, thanks. Oh, I only sell them in fours.........

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Graham Bowers

In theory, but (there's always one!) allowing the swivel to turn more causes the swivel ball seal to travel too far and hit the casting where the flange bolts to the axle tube. This doesn't allow much more lock than standard. Also, it potentially over-loads the swivel pins and damages the seal, and may make the CV joint work at too steep an angle. That probably doesn't matter on a trialer, but could be Bad News on a road-going motor. On Series motors the gain could be quite good, as the swivels turn less of the ball circumference in standard trim than coil sprung motors.

Richard

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beamendsltd

The same effect can be achieved by adding spacers to move the wheels outboard. In both cases the aim is to generate clearance between the tyres and radius arms so the steering stops can be backed off. Spacers are criticized as being technically poor as they do increase the loads on wheel studs etc, but without doing the calcs (if I still can) or seeing the strain gauge results I have no idea if the increased loads are actually bad. Graham

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Graham Bowers

Good point. I lost turning circle when I fitted knobbly tyres and had to reduce the steering lock 'cos the tyres clouted the radius arms. I need to be careful I don't cause the damage you outline above by going too far past the original lock. Graham

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Graham Bowers

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