Headlamp bulbs.

What's the collective views on these then?

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I think they're normal bulbs with some blue dye on the end. I may be wrong, but that's my suspicion.

I'd stick with Halfords +30% bulbs if you want something brighter.

David

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David French

I fitted the Halfords +30 % bulbs the day after I got the Disco and they made a hell of a difference especially on dip, the original bulbs on dip were like candles ( but I'm used to Xenon on the Laguna)

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StaffBull

A Complete load of bollocks.

If you genuinely want Xenon HID bulbs then don't be a cheapskate, go and buy a conversion kit. If you don't want to spend £400 then stick with regular bulbs.

Alex

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Alex

i had a set in my 300tdi landy , took them out 3 weeks ago and went back to normal bulbs .

they may be advertised as 130w bulbs but i found mine to be dimmer than white bulbs, the blue glaze seems to make the bulbs a lot less bright than similar white bulbs of same wattage

just get yourself a pair of 80/100w halogen bulbs .

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M0bcg

Init illegal to do that? I have some H4 Halogen 55W - and these are revolutionary for a 101...

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Mother

We 'ad candles for 'eadlights in my day...

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David French

I always feel that such overt displays of wealth are soooo vulgar...

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Mother

Twas 19 Feb 2004 21:34:49 GMT when snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (M0bcg) put finger to keyboard producing:

I've got 80/100's in now but I'm not happy with their 'iffy' legal status. I'm not one for breaking laws, or even fracturing them.

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Mr.Nice.

On or around 19 Feb 2004 21:34:49 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (M0bcg) enlightened us thusly:

the ones advertised are dangerous crap, IMHO. Blue filters reduce the actual light output, and they may run higher wattage to compensate, which makes 'em illegal in post-86 vehicles. The 6000K refers to the colour temperature of the light and is thoroughly misleading even if accurate - you can have any colour temperature you want, by suitable use of coloured filters, but what you *want* is light intensity, and that's exactly what you don't get by putting coloured filters in the way.

The photo which alleges to show a comparison between "stock" and "HID" looks to me like a comparison of a non-halogen headlamp such as hardly anyone uses any more and a genuine HID lamp, which the offered items are not. Since it makes no actual claim that any of the pictures are of their bulb, it's not likely to interest trading standards. I seriously doubt, however that they're "fully street legal", unless they're approval-marked which they won't be if they're over 55W dip.

which are also illegal in post-86 vehicles.

FWIW, the ones I currently favour are the Philips Vision Plus 60/55W which are sold as 50% brighter and, while they may not actually be 50%, they're certainly a nice bright light.

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Austin Shackles

Yup. Maximum on-road wattage is 55w for dip and 65w for main. Although you can have as mainy additional driving lamps at 65w each as you like.

The best one is to use 100/55w, as they look correct on dip, but give you more on mains. Thus Mr Plod won't notice they're brighter.

Alex

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Alex

On or around Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:35:50 +0000, Mr.Nice. enlightened us thusly:

unless you've uprated the switch and wiring*, you'll probably get nearly as much light from a pair of the "50% brighter" 60/55s.

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Austin Shackles

This is a very grey area as there is no maximum wattage stipulated in the lighting regs other than vehicles used after 1st April 1986 must have an approval mark This I believe extends to the bulb but ICBW I remember buying some 100/80 bulbs for a 1984 Sierra on the back it said not suitable for post 1986 vehicles

but having said that would anyone be able to tell the difference

Andy

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Andy.Smalley

Crap! My understanding is that Xenon headlights are a complete system not just a bulb so to go over to proper Xenon light you would need to change the whole headlight. Take a look at this site for brighter bulbs from well respected vehicle lighting companies...

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And don't bother with "blue" bulbs, unless you want to pose. :-)

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Twas Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:36:36 -0000 when "Bob Hobden" put finger to keyboard producing:

OK, so here I am.....

Philips vision plus (50%) more light. Osram silver star (50%) more light.

which to buy......

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Twas Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:49:30 +0000 when Mr.Nice. put finger to keyboard producing:

bugger it, I bought the Osrams... tell me I did the right thing?

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Mr.Nice.

All of my vehicles have been used after 1st April 1986...

(sorry, couldn't resist... I'll get mi coat...)

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Mother

Nearly! Follow links from "bmwtips.com" to problems/fixes then look for bulb review link. In order of overall performance, including beam geometry checks,

  1. Philips Vision Plus (+50%)
  2. Osram Silverstars (+50%)
  3. Philips Premium (+30ish%) I had to plump for the Premium's for my car as it uses 9006(HB4) bulbs, not available in 1. or 2. Link makes interesting reading, especially when you see bulbs from PIAA at £70-odd a bulb!!!! failing the tests. Happy reading, Badger.

ps my 110 has std halogens fitted, if I drive faster than the illuminating ability, I'm running out of handling and braking!!!

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Badger

On or around Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:29:21 -0000, "Andy.Smalley" enlightened us thusly:

bulbs fitted to approval-marked lamps should be approval-marked, yes, according to my reading of the regs.

Mind, I much prefer a pair of spotlamps for long-range main beam light, avoids problems with wiring and so on which you can get with extra-powerful bulbs. 60W main beam plus a couple of decent 55W spots gives enough light for speeds up to about 70 on unlit roads, which you're mostly not supposed to be exceeding anyway. the 4-lamp setup is also better if a bulb blows.

there appears to be no specified wattage for any lamps other than indicators, which are supposed to be 15-36W if they're not approval-marked. I assume the approval process lays down a wattage, however, of course, what should be defined is luminous intensity, preferably measured at a specified distance.

The RVRL(1989) is really very vague about all this - obligatory front and rear position lamps, for example, should be "visible from a reasonable distance". Indicators should be "plainly visible".

There's also the angles of visibility; position lamps should be "visible" from an angle of 80° outboard, but no mention of intensity again.

I await with interest the arrival of LED units ordered, to see how bright they look.

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Austin Shackles

On or around Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:03:57 +0000, Mr.Nice. enlightened us thusly:

don't think there's any difference worth mentioning - I got Philips simply because they were available in a local shop. would've bought the Osram ones had they been available and the Philips not.

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Austin Shackles

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