Loctite equivalents?

On or around Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:25:39 +0100, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:

what for?

According to Google they seem both equivalent to HASA 711 from Hernon Industries.

I should be able to find something at work tomorrow.

Not in the 20 year old catalogue I'm afraid.

Loctite tends to come in series.

6?? are cylindrical retainers (bearings on shafts etc). 638 is the current high strength retainer. 3?? are structural adhesives, bomding flat things together. Nothing 30? in current range though.

What are you up to?

HTH

David

"Spring bolt -- axle journal"

"Steering bolt sleeve -- front wheel drive housing"

That's all the info I have ;-)

I can't even find the effing parts mentioned, the part numbers given don't exist and their descriptions don't match anything I can find...

I believe they are high strength threadlocks, that's the assumption under which I'm progressing, but these two are low priority given that the bits they are used on don't appear to exist... Bloody krautwagon. I've found the up-to-date equivalents of all the other loctites I'm likely to need.

I can recommend Buck and Hickman for this kind of thing BTW, they've been more helpful than most other sites;

Yep, I saw that one, it was one of the things that lead me to believe they were both more or less equivalent and are high-strength threadlocks or bearing fixers. I was trying to find something from loctite that matched, normally they phase one out and introduce an equivalent.

Thanks!

Apparently according to

are both the same and are "Loctite SpeedBonder 307/636"the equivalent by "hernon" is Hernon HASA 711hope this is off some help GGJ

Thanks for that, useful info, I'll investigate further.

Rebuilding bits of pinzgauer, the front differential housing tore, manufacturing defect from the look of it, the casing only looks a few years old too.

The back of the manual has a 33-year-old list of loctite products that are required and where they are needed, I needed about four of them immediately so decided to try and track them all down at once. The two that I can't find aren't ones I need right now but I'll bet I'll need them in a hurry on a sunday at some point.

Yep, spotted that one, cheers. I spent a few hours googling and was surprised that I couldn't find much that was really concrete.

Not seen that one listed but it must set *really* hard then?? ;-)

Martin

I had a sense of foreboding when I typed that, I didn't think I'd be disappointed! Perhaps I've been sniffing too much loctite.

IIRC the 3xx series are bonding agents whilst the 6xx series are retaining compounds.

307 is still listed/described here The best I can offer you on 636 is that a retired engineer mate of mine says that from memory it was a medium strength retaining compound and that he'd use 609 in it's place.

http://68.72.74.108/PRODUCTS/609.htm

Cheers for all of that, I'll check out the links tomorrow.

Yes, 6xx series definitely retaining compound. Is it the green coloured stuff? 'cos if it is and you get it wrong you'll have a hell of a job to get it off again.

Martin

The 609 I mentioned is not too tough - it's closer to a 'bearing fit' type of compound than a retaining compound. It's never too much trouble to remove (famous last words).

He he... You said it!

Martin

The Genuine Parts thread lock is Loctite 243, which has "threadlock" and "nutlock" on the pot. Loctite do have site with all the specs on...... sowewhere. I think it may be on the Henkel site (they own all these sorts of companies it seems).

Richard

Yep, but if the part in question was recommended to have 243 on it, they'd have said so in the manual, there's a big list of other parts that need 243 and the parts in question are explicitly not in that list. The various loctites have some quite important differences, e.g. different strengths, different gap tolerances, temperature ranges etc etc but I don't know how important these are in this situation. It would help enormously if I knew what the parts were in the first place ;-)