Re: engines & conversions

I posted this before but didn't get to see reply before they disappeared.
> Well Here I go again. If someone could compile and send all the responses > from my first post it would also be appreciated. > > Hi I'm a potential land rover owner (otherwise I still lack cash) > > What engines do Land Rover series come with? > What are the diesel engines they have? > I'm from Australia and I have heard of Holden 186 & 202 engine adaptor > plates. What are the benefits of these engines?? > From reading posts I gather land rovers come with Perkins engines. True? > By any change have they ever come with Perkins P6 engine? (have one from a > tricycle tractor) > This is probably blasphemy, but how do Toyota 2f engines sit in the engine > bay?? Would it bolt up to the gearbox?? > > some thoughts and experience on this topics would be appreciated. > > later > > Charlie >

i have a series 3 with a 202 in it. i think all the perkins stuff is pommy and not relevant to us! it is generally believed that the 186 is a better option than the 202, it is slightly less powerful due to it's smaller capacity, but is stronger as the 202 is simply a bored (pretty sured it's bored, but may be stroked aswell) 186, the 186 being a stronger engine which is ideal for this application. the 202 is also possibly too powerful for the rest of the drivetrain, i have heard of many gearboxes being shredded by the extra horsepower of the 202 over the original 2.25 rover engine that it was designed for.the toyota 2f engine is 4.2 litres, with a power output of around 160 hp, as opposed to the 100-odd hp from the 202 and the 81 hp from the 2.25, so once again your going to have the same problem of an engine with twice the original power ripping the shit out of all the drivetrain components.

we did not do the 202 conversion ourself, but i believe it is a very simple procedure with kits selling for roughly $600 i believe. this includes different engine mounts, bell-housing and stuff to enable you to shift the grill forward. most holden converted engines have the whole grill/rad shifted forward about 10 cms aswell as an extended bonnet. this would make it very difficult to fit in the 4.2 ltr straight six (the toyota 2f) if a

3.3 ltr straight six struggles. the reasons people do this conversion are

1) spares across the nation, every second household has a 202,186,145 or whatever, powered vehicle.

2) 20-30% more power.

3) much smoother engine.

the disadvantages of the conversion are that, although it is a very appropriate engine, it is still a car engine and is not anywhere near as forgiving than 2.25 particularly at very low revs. this simply means the clutch must be ridden more to avoid "lugging" at low speeds. i found the 202 was much easier to stall than a horribly out of tune 1966 2.25 S2a.the conversion also does not fix the main problem of high-revs at crusing speed. the engine will still do 3400 rpm plus at 100 km/h.

any other advice i am more than happy to help you out.

good luck, hope you find a new soul-mate.

sammy.