Victorian railways were fully oil fired (as a result of coal strikes) but still converted to diesels - which use less oil. Makes this theory less likely.
But only where the line is very close to power grids and has traffic levels that are not usually found away from suburban areas anywhere outside of Western Europe or a few areas of high population density outside there. JD
Skipping school, I decide to respond to what "David French" fosted Mon, 17 May 2004 16:53:03 +0100 in misc.survivalism , viz:
The Diesel Engines in the States are "Diesel Electric" - big diesel engines hooked to big generators, which then turn the wheels. (And slowing trains down involve unlinking the diesels and using the motors now as Brakes, which shunt the energy into cooling grids, which I take it get a wee bit warm at times.)
tschus pyotr
Wasn't it TVO (Tractor Vapourising Oil) - a Diesel/Petrol mix (or Diesel/Kerosene mix).
|>> > wasn't for the fact that it's a byproduct of refining oil to get |>> > gasoline and kerosene. Imagine if oil was refined only to get diesel, |>> > more than half the energy and 80% of the dollar value would just go down |>> > the drain. |>> > |>> |>> That's hardly relevant. |>> |>
|>Hardly relevant!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? |>
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|>FACT IS there would be no cheap diesel available were it not for |>gasoline production. | |sorry, but that's crap. There's far more diesel (fuel oil) produced and |used in the world than there is gasoline. all the trucks run on it, a hello |f a lot of trains run on it, all the motor ships, half the central |heating... | |fact is, most of the fractional distillation products of crude oil are now |being used, especially with a rise int he use of LPG (mostly Propane) for |vehicles, which is the stuff that used, in the old days, to be flamed off.
that is a good point. We are now seeing the production of diesel engines for small aircraft so that they can run on either Jet A or diesel. It is hard to get regular gasoline (petrol or MOGAS) in much of the world let alone AVGAS. But Jet A and diesel are available everywhere. And, as we pointed out, a diesel engine will run on olive oil if needed.
|> > Except of course for that nasty little prerequisite of electricity. |> > Or the water itself... |> |> the water is reusable though, once the hydrogen has been used in the car it |> goes back to being water. | |However none of the "we can make huydrogen by electrolysis" nuts ever |addresses the problems. The inefficiency and the potential for pollution |in the form of chlorine and hydroxide. Neither of them trivial |byproducts.
Look, they push for one type of technology. They know that it has problems but that sets them up to have the next round of protests. As long as the far left is made up of people with bitterness in their souls, we will never have peace.
Yup; but heat the tanks to 145 deg F and it flows well/burns well .
"Steve Firth"
As if they'd go for that ....................
|Hybrids high mileage HYPE. | |The 19-year-old EPA tests for city and highway mileage actually gauge |vehicle emissions and use that data to derive an estimated |fuel-efficiency |rating. The EPA tests pre-production vehicles in a lab to simulate |vehicle |starts and stops on crowded city streets and open road conditions. |According to the EPA website, "The tests measure the waste substances |emitted from consuming the fuel, not the actual fuel consumed. From the |measurement of emissions, EPA can estimate the miles per gallon achieved |by |the vehicle on average." | |
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