a STUPID newbie question here....
My mom has accidentally put in DIESEL gas in my highlander.
(I KNOW ITS NONSENSE!!)
then she drove about 25 miles on freeway before it didnt accelerate
anymore. we dropped it at a toyota service department at the dealer.
they are saying they need to flush fuel lines and replace plugs....
(also saying the diesel may have damaged the sensors)...
I just need to know
what exactly should be done to my car. So I wont get ripped off.
My friend was saying they could just flush the fuel lines.
Please advise....Im in a deperate need of answers....
Thank you in advance.
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At the least, you will need to pump the bad fuel out of the fuel tank and
flush the fuel lines. The mixed gas-diesel will be considered hazardous
material so be prepared to pay a fee to dispose of it.
You will need to replace the fuel filter.
Spark plugs and sensors may or may not need replacement. Start with the
flush and fuel filter and see what happens. If it doesn't start, replace
the plugs and if you get a check engine light, replace sensors as indicated.
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Diesel fuel nozzels are larger than Unleaded gasoline nozzels so she could
not have fully inserted the nozzle into the filler restrictor. You can have
nearly 50% diesel/gasoline before the engine has a hard time running. So
your Highlander must have been pretty low on fuel when she misfueled the
O2 sensors are the only items that may become fouled. You're ECM will light
the Check Engine light if this is the case. All you need do is drain the
fuel tank. NO need to replace filters or all that other BS. Spark plugs
We had this discussion before. As far as I can tell there is no
rule/law/regulation that requires this to be true (at least in the US in
general). After we first argued about this, I started paying attention to
diesel nozzles. As you say, MOST are larger, but at three different stations
I found nozzles that were the same as unleaded fuel nozzles. And I
personally know a person who filled their S10 Blazer with diesel because the
station had a small nozzle.
And interestingly, I watched a lady yesterday try to jam one of the larger
diesel nozzles in the fuel filler on Her Ford Freestyle. At first it did not
occur to me what she was trying to do. However, after her third try at
forcing the nozzle in the tank, I gently asked her if she had the right
nozzle. This was one of the pumps that has two nozzles, one for gasoline
(all grades) and one for diesel. She had selected the wrong one. After my
prompting, she realized her mistake and thanked me.
I'd be surprised if the diesel fuel hurt anything. Personally I'd just empty
the tank, flush the lines, and replace the fuel filter. I'll bet it would
run just fine. I believe replacing the fuel filter is probably a good idea
just to make sure you get all the diesel fuel out of it and because I'd
worry that the flushing procedure might have damaged it. Besides, it is
cheap. I can't see how the spark plugs would be damaged - fouled maybe, but
they'll be dry by the time you get the other work done. Running the vehicle
for a few miles should burn any diesel deposits off the O2 sensors.
As our previous exchange revealed, my references are based on what is done
in my home state of California. We ARE the leaders in this country where
vehicle emissions regulations are concerned.
I was refueling the diesel Datsun recently. A black man approached me and
asked if I would pay him a dollar for washing my windows and finish
refueling my truck. I declined. Then he noticed I was MISFUELING the
Datsun with diesel. He got very animated!! I started laughing and showed
him the diesel sticker inside the fuel door. He'd never ever of such a thing
in an old Datsun. He walked away in disbelief. This has happened before.
What a hoot each time.
Next time that happens just say, "Yeah, but just LOOK at how much
cheaper it is"...keep making excuses like, "Wadda ya mean 'it
won't work'...how can the engine tell?, it's dark inside
there"...give him a big story to tell his buddies. You might tell
him that you gas up here every Monday...pretty soon he'll have a
big crowd of buddies there to watch...till one of them'll
twig!...then you better RUN...
What makes diesel different from #1 kerosene? Just curious because I
use kerosene in a small heater in my garage shop. I just bought 10 gal
the other day at $3.09/U.S. gal and the next day I see it was at $3.19.
My heater manual specifically says to use #1 kerosene.
You are not paying road use tax on your #1 Kerosene for your heater (or #2
heating oil for your home). I think the total of state and Federal road use
("gas") taxes in NC is around $0.339 (or maybe higher). Add that back in and
then figure the price. I buy diesel in 1500 gallon lots for farm use. In
2003 in was $0.85 per gallon. Late last spring it was around $1.30. I'd hate
to ask now. Road use tax is not charged on my farm use diesel but the fuel
is dyed red and you don't want to get caught with it in your road truck's
fuel tank (and yes the DOT guys will check diesel farm pick-ups).
In this goofy left winger state they charge sales tax on kerosene IF you
use it to heat your home. A person has to remember to tell them at the
station that it's not for heating my home and you'll avoid paying the
sales tax, LOL.
I realize that this post is several days old but I didn't have
good hard facts at hand to answer it so I held off till today.
At least here on PEI in Eastern Canada, diesel fuel is about 10
cents per litre cheaper than high test gasoline. That's (of
course) about 40 cents a gallon cheaper, and while not much
cheaper, it IS cheaper. I asked my Brother-in-Law this question.
He owns a back-hoe and a tractor-trailer to move it around plus a
half ton GMC truck all of which have diesel engines. He also owns
a Honda car so I suspect that he knows whereof he speaks.
So there you go, I didn't want you labouring under a
misapprehension there Philip...
There are several "excuses" given for the price of road diesel here in CA.
I refueld the little truck tonigh with diesel. This was a cut rate station.
Diesel $3.25, Premium $2.99, Unleaded+ $2.89, Unleaded $2.79. Now Off
Road diesel is about $2.65 (all prices are US gallons, and US dollars).
There was a front page article in a newspaper recently about a guy that was
getting used cooking oil from a local McDonalds to run his old MB diesel for
many years. He was telling how he was saving a lot of money on the free
cooking oil. A week or so later there was a small article that he had been
charge by the federal and state government for not paying road fuel use
taxes of thousands of dollars. ;)
I'm familiar. You CANNOT just pour used deep fryer oil into your diesel
tank and drive away. To do so requires onboard heating and several stage
filtration ... not to mention that the fryer oil you get cannot have had any
animal or fish fried in it. Vegetables only.
I'd like to see the particular article or at least a clue what paper or news
source you read regarding road fuel taxes.
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