Service -> reconstruction

Feb 15, 2005 15 Replies

Oh well.



That's all I can say. Not having a garage or driveway just now, I've put the Disco in to a garage for a full service. I was expecting an extra bill for replacing the clutch cylinders, but thought everything else was in reasonable order - especially the little things like brakes... it's just passed an MoT!



I'm very glad to have found a garage I trust, and I have no argument about this stuff being needed. But I wasn't expecting:



- new rear brake discs



- new lift pump



- fix leaking vacuum pump



- sort seals on output shafts



- sort seals on hubs



Yipes. Better to have everything done, of course... but I'm embarassed I hadn't even been expecting these things.



So, just for fun... here's my question for the group; what's the most alarming and unexpected thing anybody's ever had to fix or have fixed, that you didn't notice yourself?



;) K


I sometimes bought a Range 3.9 and had to invest nearly 8k EUR to have it in a reasonable condition.

Since then I expect the unexpected ;)

Raoul

" you need a new injector pump" said he. "f*ck" said I. got a second opinion did I, "I'll just retap the hole and fit a new drain screw "said blokey. "sweeeeet" grinned I.

Regards. Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

Hi Mark, Didn't notice this site before, a lot of good info. Can you tell me if there is a real difference between the 200 and 300 TDI engine or is it just an upgrade. All the specs look the same to me. Kind regards, Erik-Jan.

I've only just uploaded that site a week or so ago, I need to set down and write a load of articles and such to beef it out a bit and then I'll launch it properly.

As I understand it the 300 tdi is supposed to be a more refined

200tdi, however the power figures are the same and most folk I know don't rate one above the other.

Regards. Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

The 200TDI is brilliant - never had any problems with the engine whatsoever.

A

P.S. Worst thing ever - didn't happen to me but a motorist I helped, here goes.

Natwich near Crewe, U.K. 5:30 p.m. dark winters night, Volkswagen Golf driven by a gorgeous Brunette who was a solicitor, a woman.

I stopped and asked what was wrong:-

"The engine has just stopped and wont turn over" She replied.

I turned the key nothing. All the lights worked though. I checked the coolant - no problem, oil cap - no problem, checked the dipstick - NO OIL. I said there was no oil. She agreed , she said:-

"Yeah two weeks ago I banged the sump on a friends driveway and damaged the bolt in the sump and so managed to get it off and was going to show it to the garage at the next service in a weeks time and ask then to put a new one on."

I gulped and said, "Did no oil come out?"

"Oh yes, but I let it run onto the grass on my driveway."

I said "the engine was sezed and probably dead, how long had she run it", I aksed,

"For two weeks, every day", she replied. All credit to the Golf it survived for two weeks. I offered her a lift home and felt very sad for her.

A

Reminds me of a nurse I knew in Chester ( trainee midwife actually ), Fiat

500, decided it was low on oil so filled it to brim ( the filler cap part ) and screwed back the cap. Wondered why it packed soon after ??

Never did find out if she was any good at deliveries !!

Haven't seen those yet. So what I mean is are they alike or is it a completely new developped engine with the same specs. Is it hard to distinguish one from the other... Kind regards, Erik-Jan.

300 is simply an upgraded 200, some people reckon the 300 relates to the output but this is not true. Basic engine based on an old Leyland design which also found its way into London Taxis and as such is well tried and tested. Not sure of visible difference but apparently they can be told apart by the look of the top of the engine ???

I put the Series 2 into a local specialist for a new rear crossmember. A day's work, no dramas....

Two weeks, two grand and a lot of searching for a bulkhead later I had a complete rebuild on galvanised chassis.

The immortal diagnosis was... "If it were an 'orse I'd shoot it"

The 300 tdi has a big black rubber thingy sitting atop the engine, however this can be removed and can be fitted to a 200tdi so it's not conclusive identity. I think some of the ancilleries are in different places, I don't have the details but soneone here will.

Regards. Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

hi folks, as I understand it the 200tdi uses an assortment of different drive belts for power steering,alternator etc whereas the 300tdi has one belt for the lot....200tdi uses old style v belts and pulleys, 300tdi uses multi grooved pulleys and belt.... hope this is of use, cheers, Steve

steve composed the following;:

wotesed ... The serpentine belt is the most reliable method of telling them apart, I am reliably informed.

The 300Tdi has a completely different timing case and manifolds. When it was launched journalists claimed a 10% power and torque increase (though LR never did, as far as I remember).

The timing case changes were to accomodate the serpantine belt system, then considered a Good Thing. The manifold changes were to reduce the puff of black smoke on start-up (partially successful), and more importantly, to get better top-end power. This was acheived, and LR won a Queens Award For Tecnological Acheivement for producing a diesel engine which maintained it's low speed torque while gaining top end power (probably where the 10% figure above came from).

Apart from those changes, the fundamental design was the same as the 2.25 diesel from 1958(ish) - which just goes to show hoe good that design was in its day.

The Td5 still uses some components present in the original engine!

So if you need to ID a 200/300Tdi engine look for the serpantine belt!

Richard

I once did a run to Oxford & back in a my Mk2 Golf Gti 16v & unknown to me the oil pressure switch was pissing oil all under the car. I checked oil at home to find none at all. I had driven 270 miles with no oil & it was fine! I'll bet that car never rusts underneath, it was plastered with oil !

Nige

Maybe she could sue herself for not being a blonde.

Peter R.

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