((((((ICE))))))))) ya ole darlin! Well bless your little heart!
I guess your attitude toward your fellow ng members may be correct. They may be too stupid to admit it if one of their cars did have such problems as the Toyotas have had. I hadn't thought of my fellow Lexus owners in such a negative light, but your implication that they are does seem to make sense, I guess. I know that several of my friends have Lexus cars and a couple have asked me what I intend to do about the problem. One of them has contacted Lexus who denied any problem, but at lunch the other day we all agreed we probably could not trust the dealers. And now you have pointed out that the owners are in general a bunch of stupid liars who would not tell if their cars had problems. This does add an extra dimension to the problem of the Lexus cars.
Thank you for your most interesting contribution. Do come back so we can enjoy your cheerfull banter.