Re: 1988 Camry V6 LE vs. 2000 ES 300

Maybe you need to trade it in for a 98 Camry ;)


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I had a 2001 Camry LE and traded it in (plus some cash) for a 2001 ES300. I thought the Camry had a smooth ride but the ES300 rides like a cloud. Sounds like you were looking for something wrong in the Lexus. Well, you found it. I agree with the previous person that replied here...keep the Camry. But if you do.....don't come crying to us. And you're unhappy about where to put your sunglasses...????
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You mean like this?
Boo hoo! My Camry broke down. Can someone in the Lexus Fraternity help me fix it, please? Boo hoo!
You wish :)
Did I mention that my 15-year old Camry still uses the original factory bulbs in its tail lights and turn signals? I only had to replace one headlight because the high-beam filament burned out last year.
My 1988 V6 Camry has only been disabled twice and that was because of a dead battery (they don't seem to last more than about 5 years), and twice because of a flat tire, over the past 13 years I have owned it.
Nothing lasts forever, and for all our sakes, I hope my 2000 Lexus ES 300 Platinum Edition will be just as reliable over time or I will have to post more incriminating data here. This car already has had a rear window power regulator issue, and some front seat assembly issues, from what I see from the service records from Lexus under the previous owner. Did you feel lucky buying a used Lexus?
Like Lexus, I'm also into the "Relentless Pursuit of Perfection". Before I owned a Lexus, the ads led me to believe that this was the Japanese Rolls Royce. Now my impression is that it is a refined, high-end Camry, possibly compromising long-term robustness for the desire for luxury and high-tech gadgetry. And that's fine if you want to buy a new luxury car every couple of years.
The 2000 ES 300 does have its merits over the 1988 Camry. The safety feature (ABS brakes, front and side airbags, Traction/Skid control, etc). God forbid, but if I were to be involved in an accident, I'd feel safer in my 2000 ES 300 than in my 1988 Camry. Tha cabin is much quieter than my 1988 Camry, and the ride is softer. But even practicality is compromised: the rear seats don't fold down, and now I hear that even the Toyota Avalon's doesn't either.
I get the distinct impression that this car was designed/made for people who want to buy a new car, keep it for a couple of years, and buy another new car. What could possibly go wrong then? This creates a great market for new car dealers, and a great secondary market for used car dealers trying to sell these "Pre-Owned" cars to people who don't want to shell out the bucks for a new car. And if something does go wrong, the amount of high-tech stuff in there excludes the majority of auto mechanics from even trying to fix it, which creates another lucrative market for Lexus to cash in on. If I were a business-minded person, I would have it no other way too.
But I like that leather and wood steering wheel in my 2000 ES 300 Platinum Edition. It's the nicest steering wheel I've ever seen or used. I hope you got that in your 2001 ES 300 as well.
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If you bought a Lexus expecting it to be like a Japanese Rolls Royce, you are in for a treat. Lexi are MUCH better than that.
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The 2002 Camry LE V6 that I have has an overhead compartment for sunglass storage.

ES300.
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I'm not really trying to be a wiseass, but why are you talking about a 4 model year old car and what you feel they should change on it?
The car has been completely redesigned since then. If you had something to say about a 2002/03 then ok, but a 2000?
Thats like complaining that my 1978 Mustang doesnt have airbags. I think Ford should put airbags in.
Go drive a new model and give feedback on that.
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BTW,
shouldn't you change your name now to one of the following: idontona Camry ishouldakeptthe Camry iona es300
Just wondering!?!? ;)

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I still drive my 1988 Camry to work twice a week. Don't want to put too many miles on my ES300. Reduces its resale value.
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Hmmm, interesting comparison. When can we see the Porsche 2003 911 vs Pontiac 1991 Grand Prix comparison?
On 25 Jun 2003 06:58:53 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Iona Camry) wrote:

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I have never ridden a cloud, so I can't compare. But it is definitely smoother than my 1988 Camry, but not significantly enough to crow about. The ES 300 is a very nice car, but it is overrated, IMHO.

A Dodge? I'll stick with my 1988 Camry, thank you :) And I did find the sunglass storage compartment in my ES 300 in the overhead console.
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Read the thread entirely.
"03 Camry - air smells bad"
at:
http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/cars
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Dead fish odor? "Scent of a Woman"?
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