Are permanently applied coil spring clamps still available?

ITYF that people have been chopping lumps off of their cars springs probably since the day after the car was invented.

You've lost the safety argument Fred!

Brian G

No you don't remove its safety! The spring will still work and the bodywork will simply sit that bit lower on the suspension - giving a 'harder' ride to those in the car. and it will also stay in place on its mountings.

There is one problem though, if you overclamp or cut too much off the spring, it will get a bit noisy over bumps with a full complement of passengers in the rear.

How do I know? From past experience during my misspent youth in the sixties and seventies.

Brian G

gazzafield ("gazzafield" ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Is there a vast conceptual difference between clamping two coils together to lower the car, and the rubber inserts to permanently separate two coils and "assist" with loads...?

Ha. I had an Astra. The springs chopped their own lumps off, all on their own...

Why because no one understands basic engineering ?

So how is it that you can buy different length ride height springs from = =

the car manufacturer? Oh , because nothing you've posted above suggests = =

that's dangerous.

So has Conor. I can see a pattern forming.

John

Fred ("Fred" > that's dangerous.

Lemme get this straight - you're suggesting that any ride height bar the original manufacturer height is inherently dangerous...?

So whatabout where THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER provides cars with different ride heights, only through changing the spring heights?

My replies a tad to technical for you to comprehend?

"If someone Designs a spring to alter ride height they will have looked at all the safety aspects, if someone bolts a couple of benelli clamps to their spring it's dangerous."

Fred ("Fred" ) gurgled happily, sounding much

A bit over-optimistic.

And a bit over-simplistic.

Not inherently, no. There's a million far worse bodges inflicted every day of the week.

Anyway - like I said, and you avoided answering... Is there a great conceptual difference between these and those rubber "spring assisters" designed for towing?

There is one main difference, the rubber spring assistors are used by old farts with caravans , they sometimes exceed 50mph (Not when I'm behind them though) and are generally experienced drivers. The lowering bodge is likely to be used by some twonk who has just passed their test, they won't adjust the tracking or even think about the car being different to the last time they took that corner flat out! I have been a towsure agent for 15 years, and I would not recommend them either.

Fred > trade at all.

Yes, but we all know about your in-depth knowledge of the MOT system.

Shiny and clean = pass. Scruffy and dirty = fail.

"Fred"

Which is about as relevant as your previous statements, if the free leng= th =

of the spring after you've fitted the clamps won't let it fall out of th= e =

cups, then it's no less safe than a shortened spring. Which given that =

Fiesta ones tend to sag by about 50mm of their own accord every 10 years= & =

that's not an MOT fail or covered by any Ford maintenance notices means = =

your original statement is still wrong. Changing your tyres for a =

different brand will have more effect on the handling.

Especially if you're replacing a decent branded tyre with one of Fred's teflon cheapies.

Ahhh, so Fred is a 'tyre consultant'.

Explains it all ;-)

Which is about as relevant as your previous statements, if the free length of the spring after you've fitted the clamps won't let it fall out of the cups, then it's no less safe than a shortened spring. Which given that Fiesta ones tend to sag by about 50mm of their own accord every 10 years & that's not an MOT fail or covered by any Ford maintenance notices means your original statement is still wrong. Changing your tyres for a different brand will have more effect on the handling.

Aye you win!, I bow to your superior knowledge.