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Yeah that's the harsh reality after having contributed your UK high tech sector and paid taxes for over 30 years. Wrong life choice.

If you exchanged your Danish licence for a UK one at some time in the past, how is your position any different from anyone else holding a UK licence?

Your licence permits you to drive certain classes of vehicle in the UK now; why would that change? Once we exit the EU, things might be different for someone from another country who wants to live and drive here, but that used to happen before we joined the EU.

Your position is no different from anyone else who comes to live here permanently from a non-EU country such as Australia for example.

Chris

That's not how I see it. The EU idea is (was) that you can move freely where your work and skills take you; the textbook economics idea of promoting growth by division of skills and labour, and it has worked. I consider myself as an EU citizen, hence not an emigrant.

Don't worry, you and everyone else who's attempted to stop the UK being part of some weird 70s backwater will now be able to be part of NewUK with its wicker basket making, ironmongers-on-the-high-street, BL-driving, Love-Thy-Neigbour-on-telly economy. You might have to black up or wear a six pointed star on your clothes, but they'll be free train transport to compensate (one way only, terms and conditions apply.)

(The trouble with satire at the moment is that it's getting harder to distinguish it from reality :-( )

Maybe it isn't. But it's a fact.

I agree with you entirely. But the fact remains that you migrated from your home country (DK?) to the UK. You are an emigrant from Denmark, and an immigrant to the UK.

You might consider yourself an EU citizen - but you aren't. There's no such thing as EU nationality, and no such thing as an EU-issued passport. Your passport is issued by Denmark, you hold Danish nationality.

Danes - together with all other EU nationalities (Croatians excepted, at the moment) - happen to have freedom to migrate between EU countries, including the UK, but that doesn't mean you aren't migrating.

As a Dane, you don't have quite the same status in the UK as somebody with British nationality - as was demonstrated last Thursday, when you couldn't vote.

I really, sincerely, hope that this won't become ever more evident over the next few years.

Yeah. I found it suspicious when Boris Johnson suddenly claimed that he had made up his mind to support Brexit. Why didn't he know before? And he was the London Major, supposedly defending the interest of business and finance in London, all of which were largely in favour of remain. The explanation I've heard was that he didn't really think that Brexit would win, then his stance would bring him kudos from the euro sceptics in the party, and increase his chance for power. What a buffoon he is. And I read in Wikipedia that he deliberately ruffles his hair before any public appearance. Says it all...

The UK has reciprocal arrangements with countries all over the world (not just in the EU) and it is perfectly possible to swap a UK licence for one from another country that you become resident in and vice-versa.

The UK also has agreements with all other EU (and associated non-EU) countries to accept each other's licences. This remains in force until the actual date of leaving the EU - just like all the other EU arrangements do. At that stage, the UK will presumably have agreed for similar arrangements to continue anyway.

I have talked to two or three people who said they voted OUT, but knew that it wouldn't happen. Yeaah, I suppose I've got some stupid acquaintances.

Same, and mostly males in their 30's, not old crinklies like the media are implying.

Chris

I would have expected that most of those wanting to stay would be either (a) the older folk - because they remember what it was like before we joined the EEC/EC and (b) the younger folk - because they have no experience of what was like before we joined the EEC/EC

Unfortunately, a lot of (b) didn't appear to have the motivation to vote (either way).

I don't know what your definition of 'younger' is, but a lot of folk under

Chris

Your 'UK' driving licence is either a GB licence or a NI licence.

If you are resident in the same country where it was issued, yes.

The EU marking has no meaning.

That is rather a typical BREXIT view. Various agreements entered into after many years of EU membership can be simply carried on with a handshake. If they suit the UK. Others that don't suit the UK can also be repealed equally as quickly/easily.

My guess is somewhat different. ;-)

Reciprocal arrangements for driving licences existed before the EU put them in place for all EU members. The UK has always agreed them with any country whose driving tests are rigorous enough (assuming they feel the same about the UK test). Why on earth would any country not want to do so when it has no economic consequences and simply makes it simpler for their own citizens?

The EU didn't do that until much later. That's why I had to take an UK driving tests.

The list is a bit surprising (obviously the US tests are inadequate):

Apparently many US states' tests are a joke. Another problem may be that (some?) US licences don't distinguish between Manual and Automatic cars.

No US licence distinguishes. 'merkins tend to regard manual boxes as a bit of a dark art.

Umm, not quite so simple.

Big difference between being able to exchange a country's licence for a UK one - and accepting another EU country's licence with no requirement to change it at all...