Ford Focus 1.6 XL 04 Mk1
I posted recently about the engine warning light and was advised to
purchase a fault code reader to diagnose the fault.
This I did and at the next occurrence of the warning light, read code
P0304 which was “Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected”.
I purchased a set of Bosch spark plugs and ignition leads for a Mk 1
Focus from an on-line supplier.
On changing the plugs, I found that the ceramic insulator around the
centre electrode of plug 4 was broken and loose which presumably would
account for the fault indication.
So far so good but when I came to fit the ignition leads, found that
they would not fit either at the cylinder block end or at the coil end
so I carried on with the old leads with (so far) no recurrence of the fault.
I had a look at the leads package and found Bosch Ref B208 which
according to the package, is for a 1998/9 Ford Fiesta.
I took it up with the supplier requesting an exchange or a refund but
they are saying that Bosch B208 is the correct part for a Mk 1 Focus and
“tough luck” - as it is an electrical part they will not exchange it or
give a refund.
Any comments or advice on this?
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:09:42 +0000, John Weale wrote:
It really depends how much time and effort you want to invest in trying
to get a refund. A quick Google will show that B208 is indeed not correct
for a Focus; have you pointed the supplier in the direction of one or
more of those sites?
OOI, who was the supplier? Via eBay? And how did you pay?
Once you decide what to do about the refund, get down to your nearest
Ford dealer, and buy a set of proper leads. They are not vastly more
expensive than Bosch et al, and may save you the Â£100+ that a failed coil
will cost you if you run with a faulty lead for any length of time.
I am a bit reluctant to name them.
I paid by credit card and thought I was dealing with a UK supplier as
they had a .co.uk address but it turns out they operate from the Irish
Republic which complicates the redress situation.
I subscribe to Which? Legal Service so I will put it to them. I may as
well get something for my subscription - I know it is "petty cash" but
it is a matter of principle.
I agree - I should have known better and got OEM leads from Ford but - I
thought Bosch would be good quality.
The urgency is off FTTB as the fault seems to havce been with the plugs
but I will get a OEM setat the next service.
Picking up on that, my Mondeo is approaching 40k, and I've noticed a
tendency for a longer starter spin before it fires up, recently.
It could be the colder weather, but with a service due in January I'm
wondering whether to prompt the garage for a change.
(Maybe it will stop them searching for less necessary work). ;-)
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:34:06 +0000, Gordon H wrote:
Bizarrely, although a 40K changeable item, it won't be done as part of
Unless you are not keeping the car, I would strongly advise getting plugs/
leads replaced at your next service. If a main dealer, check the price;
it might save a shock when you collect the car :-)
I fitted new plugs (Bosch) at 38K which only lasted for 30K before No. 4
failed due to a broken insulator around the centre electrode. This
seems a bit low - is Bosch plugs quality suspect or is 30K normal?
I just purchased a set of ignition leads from a Ford dealer at £79 - ouch!
I questioned their returns policy in case they didn't fit and they have
no problem with this unlike the Irish outfit who refused to exchange or
refund any electrical items.
I took legal advice on this and was told that it would not be worth the
hassle and expense of persuing it as SOGA and Distance Selling Regs do
not apply there.
So beware of doing business with an on-line supplier with a .co.uk
address claiming to be "The Car Parts Experts" but operating from ROI
with T & C stating that Irish Law applies.
If anyone need an unused set of Bosch B208 ingnition leads marked as
suitable for a 98/99 Fiesta 1.4, let me know.
I've used PP when I've had to, but I get loads of junk mail asking me to
"check my account" or sort some problem out with my account.
If I used it much it would be a pain sorting out any genuine email from
So you go on paypal and set a new unique E-mail address  that you
only use for dealing with Pay Pal. eg Gords.PayPal1 @ your host name
Then you filter all mail to that address into the folder for pay pal
mail. Anything that says it's from paypal that doesn't get put in that
folder is an attempted fraud. I don't use TP but it should be possible
to set a kill rule with lower rank than the save filter to file the
junk in the bin. If the unique address is compromised then it's either
you or them. Although PayPal are a prime target for hacking its most
likely you, if it's you they will have more than one address (whatever
went though your E-mail when the "virus" is active). Fix the leak and
change the E-mail address on PayPal and whatever other sites have been
compromised. You have lost a few addresses from an infinite pot. (I've
lost about 4 in the last 10 years and had maybe 4-6 more harvested
from usenet before I munged the addr)
 USP of Demon , you have as many E-mail addresses as you can
make up. So you can use a different one for every site/forum/firm you
deal with and have a private one for friends. (Most I just filter into
a "sign-ups" folder or some other generic folder when I get the
confirmation E-mail, it's only banking, money, personal and high
volume higher interest forum ones that I take the step of using a
 If it survives the mail system update to MS exchange next month.
Current thinking is that pop3 and collect all will still be available
and IMAP is being used for exchange webmail.
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