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Free MoT retests could soon be a thing of the past, due to new rules. Currently, garages give customers a no-cost second inspection on cars which fail at the first attempt, because they only recheck items which were changed or fixed. But new computerised procedures - launched nationwide this month - will kill off the practice. Mechanics have to visit a special website to record vehicle details, and must do the whole test again. As that takes time, motorists will be billed twice.

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Johnnie Scott
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How will a website know what you've inspected the second time round and what you haven't?

Reply to
barry

Thus increasing the number of cars on the road without MOT, therefore the number without valid insurance.

What a really clever idea...

Reply to
Stuffed

Won't deter boy racers from borrowing mates tyres to pass and then putting death wheels back on a again. I'm all for crushing cars on the spot if the owner has obviously taken the piss at some stage and put people at risk, that includes speeding, squealing, jumping red lights and dare I say it the poxy sound systmes we have to endure.

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Hirsty's

I speed. just yesterday I was doing a lethal 32mph, as the police car infront of me covered the ground at at least 5mph faster. Makes me wonder how we all survived, what with it being a dry quiet straight non residential road. Earlier I even squealed my tyres, as I was testing the work I'd done on my brakes. And later on I put a tape in and could hear it through the awesome 5" speakers on my parcel shelf from outside the car!

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Stuffed

And the news in this little titbit is?

Under current MOT regs, unless you have the repairs done by the garage who MOT'd it, they are entitled to charge you a full retest fee.

In addition to that, a retest is supposed to be a full test and not just a check of the failed items.

Reply to
Conor

Johnnie Scott wrote on Sat, 07 May 2005

14:31:27 GMT:

IIRC, for certain items you're legally entitled to get a free re-test until the end of the next working day.

Well, they had to write them on paper previously.

I don't get the logic behind your strange jump to this conclusion. Is it part of the new rules that the entire vehicle must be retested, or have you just decided it must be for reasons known only to yourself?

A retest will _always_ take some amount of time.

Reply to
David Taylor

how about 50 in a 30 zone outside a school

rules are set for a reason, if we decide to break them due to superior intellect then us lesser mortals cannot anticipate within reason ( except that you will do the unpredictable )

could be argued that that kind of test is not needed or more work would be in the offing

you drive from outside the car ??

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Hirsty's

Perhaps we will see a rise in garages offering pre-mot checks instead? Its got to be worth their while to offer the free bits or they wouldn't do it, just they'll have to package it a bit differently, that's all.

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Mad Ad

How will it mean an increased number off cars on the road without MOT?

As all mot's will be computerised sometime in the near future (when VOSA actually decide that the systems going to work, and stop posponing the launch), this means that just like your car insurance, the police will be able to check that the car has a valid mot, without even having to stop it. It'll save police time, as they'll not have to issue producers for every car they suspect hasn't got a valid MOT, meaning they 'll have more to time to deal with other offenses.

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Moray Cuthill

The same way the hideous price of insurance puts off those who would otherwise pay. The more expensive you make something, the greater the number of people who will try and get away without paying at all. Right now, the average dodgy git might pay the MOT fee, go home, get a bit greasy, and get the retest done. Make them pay double, and they'll just drive around on the basis the longer they go without getting caught (and just what percentage of these people do get caught?) the more money they've saved.

Reply to
Stuffed

Why would you have a pre MOT check? Seems stupid. You pay someone the same cost as an MOT to find it'll pass?

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Conor

That's a bloody good idea, I might go try it. After all, although it's Saturday, it's getting dark, and the local school is on a wide straight road, whenever I drive anywhere, above all, I have to think of the children...

Rules are set by a committe often miles away from where they'll be enforced, and often based on very outdated, improperly researched statistics, or on a purely arbitrary historical basis. Rules for speed are very much not set by those in the real world, as is seen from the number of people who speed every day, compared to those who excessively speed. Speeding is breaking a number dreamt up in an office, excessive speeding can easily be done within the speed limit, but heaven forbid we should ever take enough personal responsibility to see the difference.

Could be argued that if a test is not required, then the MOT is a waste of money and time. Alternately, and as recommended by various books written in the days the human race could comprehend common sense without having to be spoon fed someone else's ideology wrapped in cotton wool, I could ensure that the work I had just done was both beneficial and safe, rather than head straight for the open road without knowing whether I'd have all four wheels under me when I needed them.

Surely if the noise from car stereos bothers you so much, it must be because you can hear them from outside the car? Otherwise, if you're complaining about the noise inside the car you're in, your point seems a little abstract.

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Stuffed

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Oh, god, not this one again.

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Guy King

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Guy King

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I think you'll find it was Mark Twain - certainly been around considerably longer than Ozzy.

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Guy King

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My school was open on Saturday - and there were boarders about on Sunday, too.

Reply to
Guy King

Yes that always annoyed me being told to do a pre mot worra load of crap!

Reply to
Angus McCoatup

, above all, I have to think of the

I hope so otherwise you may find that others ignore the rules as well and come looking for you with a piece of 4x4 after you injure one of their offspring

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Hirsty's

Bugger the blind, the old, the "differently abled" and so forth then, eh?

If little Johnny was stupid enough to be skateboarding at teh bottom of a hill, on a tight road, round a blind corner, then tough. The young have supposedly better reactions, so if they're going to be so bloody stupid, then let Darwin take its course.

Maybe, and here's areally out there idea, but maybe parents could have a go at being responsible for their offspring once in a while, instead of leaving it to society. I know, it'd never work.

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Stuffed

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