Pay at the pump

There isn't. I've filled up 3 vehicles on one day at the same Tesco.

John

I guess if they are using false plates and have your credit card, upto £60 of fuel isn't going to be the only entry you'll have.

My guess is they pre-take registration plates. I remember reading an article that talked about one of the supermarkets taking a photo of everybody who picked up Gillett razors. Keeping a few number plates would be small fry compared.

Regards,

Tim

We are talking about lost cards here. After a transaction at an RBS hole in the wall facility a card was either dropped or left in that machine in error. This was not discovered until a week later when the cardholder went to use the card. In the meantime it was used twice in Maplins who do not use chip and pin and four times (once every other day) at the Tesco Pay at the pumps facilities. The pin was not available to whoever laid hands on the card. It was thought that several cars were used in the purchase of petrol on these

The POLICE told us that there was no ID check on cards used at the pumps. They also told us that one of the cars was a green Vauxhall.

No number plate check there then.

My local Tesco have got rid of the staff after 11pm now. It's an unmanned station through the night.

What they forgot to do, though, was to fit a cigarette machine on the forecourt - 'cos on a Saturday / Sunday night, there's nowhere to buy a pack around here.

I wonder why they bother. Surely the point of making you pay at the till is so that you have to walk past the overpriced drinks/magazines/sweeties before you pay? I'd have thought they make more profit from that than a few more people managing to get petrol (which has very tight margins).

Theo

Because manning a petrol station overnight is very expensive - you can't keep the shop open unless it's dual-staffed, both on a 30-50% premium over day rates. Which means most stores opened with a single member of staff, but closed the shop - so hardly anyone was buying shop products anyway.

Pardon???

The 4 spurious purchases of fuel were in the region of £40 each so it is worth quite a bit to the scamps who get the petrol. Oh! You mean why Tesco bother with Pay at the pump. Presumably to reduce the numbers queueing at the usual two tills at the sales point.

If you take the numbers of lost cards against the advantage to Tesco of quick turnover of customers you can see their point. The cash lost in these transactions is borne by the card issuer. As this method of card use is against the requirements for identification by the issuers, perhaps it should be Tesco who stand the losses.

I'm pretty sure that the retailer would take the loss now, since the C&P regulations came in.

Asda Killingbeck on the A64 on the way out of Leeds allows it. My mum used to stop on the way home from visiting me in hospital sometimes - although often she said there were gangs of pikey types near by so she just waited and stopped somewhere else heh.

Do you know when that was?

A couple of weeks ago, I popped into tesco on the way home from work to pick up a loaf of bread. I got the the till and realised I'd left my cash in the car but had my credit card so I went to the self service till (that does need the PIN) and payed the 92p on my credit card.

I then drove around the corner to the tesco petrol station and tried to use the pay-at-pump with the same card - it was rejected and the pump told me to pay in kiosk. I did this and it was fine.

When I got home (less than 5 mins later) my credit card company were on the phone to my wife asking for me. Apparantly, a very small transaction at a self service till followed by a fill up of fuel on pay-at-pump is and automatic security check. Seems that people watch for the pin at cashpoints, mug the person up the road and pinch the card and then quickly go check the card still works by making a small purchase at a self service till. If the pin doesn't work they just stick the cash in and wander off without raising suspicion. If it does work they nip to the petrol station and fill up.

Didn't all quite make sense (if they knew my pin they could have paid in the kiosk anyway!) but it was interesting to see the pump instantly rejected it - they must be online.

Darren

It wasn't quite the same date (chip'n'pin came in in April, responsibility for the loss changed to retailer in following Jan IIRC) but yeah, if a retailer doesn't use chip'n'pin then I'm pretty certain that they take the loss if the charge is later refunded.

Darren

Google is your friend...

Chris

Easier *for them* that is.

Don't lose your card then. Here's another: Don't hang your car keys up on a key hook just inside your front door.

I used one at ASDA a while back. The pump was empty, but it still charged

However, I always thought that any non-PIN transaction was now at the risk of the shop keeper. I would be surprised if the card holder can be held liable for any non-PIN transactions without his consent, even without reporting the card as missing? Very surprised, because then what is the point of C&P?

It's quite interesting that all my friend's in the USA have printed "ask for ID" on the signature part of their cards. So everytime they buy something they give their card and their drivers licence.

All of the withdrawals that we suffered were refunded by the card holder - whether they claimed against Tesco or the electrical firm involved, I know not.