synthetic oils- legal definition

Just curious about the (UK) legal definition of a "synthetic motor oil". The text quoted below comes from a posting to a car forum that I frequent and the chap who wrote it is a UK based retailer of consumables including premium oils. The suggestion from this text and the rest of the post (not shown) is that many so called synthetic motor oils that are found in the shops are, in fact, mineral based (although of course, this guy supplies the real McCoy). Surely US rulings as to what constitututes a synthetic motor oil would have no bearing on UK law?

"Now, you may ask, why are these special mineral oils calledsynthetic? Well, it was all sorted in a legal battle that took place in the USA about ten years ago. Sound reasons (including evidence from a Nobel Prize winning chemist) were disregarded and the final ruling was that certain mineral bases that had undergone extra chemical treatments could be calledsynthetic. Needless to say, the marketing executives wet their knickers with pure delight! They realised that this meant, and still does, that the critical buzz-word synthetic could be printed on a can of cheap oil provided that the contents included a few percent of hydrocracked mineral oil, at a cost of quite literally a few pence."

Cheers, Jim.

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Jim Walsh
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I remember going into Motorworld or some similar chain type place. I said I was looking for synthetic oil and the chav working there said "all these oils are synthetic"

Reply to
fishman

consumables

course,

calledsynthetic?

Quite frankly, whether a lubricating oil is or is not synthetic is completely academic and unimportant in any application. What matters is the *standard* met by the oil. This is printed on the can and there is a large overlap between high quality mineral oil [where 'quality' means its duty and longevity] and a budget synthetic. Who cares about how an oil is refined or cracked other than academics and professional oil formulators? It is of no importance and indicates little or nothing meaningful to the consumer. Read the performance standards met by the oil as stated on the can and match it with what's needed for your car or whatever car you care for.

Huw

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Huw

I've just picked up a 5L can of Wilco diesel oil for £8 which is "Synthetically Fortified" . It meets API CF4 & ACEA B2 & says its suitable for standard & turbo charged engines. Fine for my 17 year old diesel Van but I'm not sure I'd have the nerve to put it in a £50K BMW or Merc tho'. Are "Name" oils a total rip off & is it just the comfort feeling you get from spending a lot of money on these products?

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Chris

In no way a thorough answer but a while back, when buying oil, I noticed that the name brand was the latest spec and the no-name brand spec was a few years older (ie a few letter behind on the AP bit.) I presume this means that the cheaper brands wait until the equipment and technology dates a bit and becomes cheaper to invest in.

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Scott M

academics

indicates

Doesn't mean a thing. It could be fortified by wine produced from genetically modified grapes.

It meets API CF4 & ACEA B2 & says its suitable

Well, that means it is good standard type oil for use in standard and turbocharged engines.

Fine for my 17 year old diesel Van

It is not suitable because a recent Mercedes needs oil that meets mb229.1 or better 229.3, while BMW's need oil that meets BMWLL11 98 as a minimum. You have made no mention of the oil meeting these specs so the oil must be assumed to be unsuitable. Simple.

They are no a rip off. They are a *brand* name which I assume you mean to be well known. Lesser known brands make a range of oils to suite most purposes and their suitability for an application is stated in the specification panel and this should be matched with the requirements of the vehicle.

It is certainly not rocket science to buy a suitable oil. If it does appear confusing, then just use a dealer/garage for your service needs and hope they know what they are doing. The more confidence you have in them, the happier you will be. There is a lot to be said for the old parable "ignorance is bliss".

Huw

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Huw

technology

There is always a price to meeting a standard but the additive packages that match a base oil to a required end use specification is usually bought off the peg from companies such as Oronite who specialise in such things.

Huw

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Huw

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