They had to be off that lovely old Rover 2000TC. I learnt to drive in one of them and a Rover 90. My dear old Dad had that Rover 2000TC for 21 years. The engine was fine after a gazzilion miles, shame about the body rot. Was a bit embarrasing jacking it up one day to change a wheel - - the jacking point broke away. That was in 1992. Failed it's MOT just after that 'cos it was a bit toooooooo rusty. Needed both sills replacing front to back and some (serious) work on the suspension. Very advanced car for its day, still looks good now. No market for it in '92, eventually went for scrap. Real shame that. Dave